Mankind.. BORN-VEGETARIAN.??..!!

Majority of Mankind are ... Non-Vegetarians... ever since the Man was born on Earth... which continues now.

Why they take Non-Veg... is not the Question here. .. Some preferably like its Taste... Some out of Necessity.. Some out of Practice from childhood since brought up so.... and so on.... Well.

And parallelly... there is another Group ... as Vegetarian... too...!

Such two categories within the same Creature... based on Food-habits... exist only in Mankind....That too with Sub-classifications amongst Non-Vegetarians... like some of them do not relish Sea-Foods... Some totally dislike Chinese or Japanese Foods made of Insects and Snakes and so on...

Whereas... amongst the Vegetarians ... there are no Sub-Classifications... All vegetarians do not avoid any category of Fruits, or such Edibles... but may only have preferences....and Not by aversion like the other Category.... Why? How? ...

While God created the Earthly Creatures... Alongside He has created the due Foods as well as the matching Bodily Organs too, apt enough to reach, capture, cut into convenient shape and size... and consume .... coupled with the matching Saliva and Digestive internal bodily mechanism.... as we see in one and all the Creatures other than Mankind... Biologically..

In that Biological consideration... where does the Man fit in out of these Two..?

... or a Special Category unlike any other Creature...similar to Ant-Eater... which eats only Ants and Bees ... and its Body-Mechanism is quite apt for such unique Food for it.

Scientifically speaking.... Is Man .... a Born-Vegetarian ? ... Or...

...Non-Vegetarian ? If Yes... Why the Sub-Categories of Taboo?..

or.. Suited to Both the Type of Foods ...?.... How ?... Why?

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Dalits

Why is there a vicious need to give a religious twist to this topic ?

If you think its virtuous being a vegetarian, than you must be disappointed to know that Hilter was also a vegetarian.

Vegetarian?... Only Hitler?.... Several Famous Europians including the Jewish Scientist Albert Eisnsteine, English Writer George Bernard-Shaw , German Medical-Research-Scholar and Founder of Homeopathy....Dr Hanehman and so on .. were also Vegetarians... who felt a pride to say so... amidst many the majority Non-Vegetarians in Dining-Parties.

If man was born vegetarian, he would not have DRAGON TEETH.
He would have only MOLARS. :roll:

(1) For every God- created Living-Being,... .... He has created alongside.... the Apt variety of Food too.... matching with its .... Functions and Purpose.... of Life on Earth.... Correct?

(2) Suiting to acquire.... its prescribed Food.... change into convenient form for eating... and further to digest it too... the Nature has provided the apt Physical Organs like... Teeth, Nails, Limbs, Saliva, Stomach as well as the well-matching Digestive-System on the whole coupled with the Assimilative innate Mechanism too which varies amongst the Creatures according to its Functions and Purpose of Existence on Earth.... Correct?

(3) It is an interesting Point to observe... that the Horse eats Grass ... but Not Leaves.. while the Elephant eats Leaves Not the Grass... and the Monkey eats only Fruits ... Not the Grass or Leaves... even though all these are the Varieties of Vegetarian Edible-stuff containing abundant Vitamins, Minerals and such other Nutritious Ingrediants vital for Life.... Why So?

(4) Similarly Non-Vegetarian Creatures too are choosy... why ? Suppose we feed them with different Food-variety... why it hates.... or lead to illness... although all are Non-Vegetarian Foods of abundantly rich Nutritious value?.... Why?

(5) Irrespective of the one of the Varieties of Food each Vegetarian or Non-Human-Creatures eat ... all those Specific Vegetarian Species ...... form into ONE Broad Group... by way of its Living-manners and Habits, as well as Inborn Physical-features too... and Similarly to the other Group too.... Is it Not?... How?.... Why?

(6) All the Born Non-Vegetarian Species eat their Non-Veg. Food without any difficulty ... as the Main Dish without any dire Supplements. Whereas Man is able to eat the Non-Veg. Food Only as the SIDE-DISH...and Not the Main-Dish... which is invariably the Vegetarian stuff. Why so?

Though human body is equiped for consuming non-veg it is best suited for having vegetarian food. Human dragon teeth is not has profound as that of carnivorous being. Moreover our digestive system and habits are not suited for non-veg.

But then I assume eating cooked food itself is not something natural.

I am not too sure about the teeth and the rest of the body,but my tastebuds call for some blood.And,I mean to answer that call ! :twisted: :twisted:

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I am not too sure about the teeth and the rest of the body,but my tastebuds call for some blood.And,I mean to answer that call ! :twisted: :twisted:

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Can't agree more.

Especially if it is a fried Rabbit. :twisted:

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Can't agree more.

Especially if it is a fried Rabbit. :twisted:

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Fried eggs belong to veg or non-veg? :twisted: :twisted:

Sudhaama wrote,

"while the Elephant eats Leaves Not the Grass... and the Monkey eats only Fruits ... Not the Grass or Leaves..."

Please know biology properly. Elephants do eat grass, Monkeys eat leaves aswell as grass roots and sometimes juicy grass stems.

Human beings are vegetarian by choice and not by birth.

"Hemant Trivedi"

// Sudhaama wrote,...."while the Elephant eats Leaves Not the Grass... and the Monkey eats only Fruits ... Not the Grass or Leaves..."

Mr. Hemant Replied.... ..//Please know biology properly.//

Dear Mr. Hemant....

May be I am a Fool... totally Ignorant of Biology... even though I have read lot of Books on various subjects of deep knowledge.... including Biology... as well as had wide contacts with Experts on multi-fareous specialities too ... since the past more than 60 years...

... In any case I always consider myself as ... a Student... anxiouis to learn from others who know better than me... even now in my Seventees.

And Mr. Hemant, you have to keep in mind... that this is not the Court-of Law... where different constant combatants argue to establish their stands

... Nor a Debating Forum... where each side... tries to defeat the other side... someway or other....

... But just a DISCUSSING-FORUM... of Friends-meet... for exchanging our Knowledge, Thoughts and Views...By means of which all of us are benefitted without the generation of heat or mutual- bitterness as the End-Result unlike the other cases.

You can see ... how I have initiated and conducting the Topic... with Question marks... for which we all have to find a Scientific Answer.

In any case... I have to point out that I feel hurt at your such scathing attack on me personally. Even if I talk something FOOLISH... Can you take Liberty to call me as a Fool ... Even in such cases you can only say .... that I am wrong... or even mine is a Non-sense... so to say only pertaining to the Topic but not on the Person behind....

I am sorry... I did not expect you will say like this... because I am thinking high of you.

// Elephants do eat grass, Monkeys eat leaves aswell as grass roots and sometimes juicy grass stems.//

If I say Human-beings sleep in day-time unlike Owls and Bats... perhaps you may refute it saying that the Night-watchmen and such other Night-duty-Employees on Trains, Air-flights, Hospital-services... etc. do not work in day time but at Night hours... what it will mean?... Same is the case here.

You are right to say... that the Elephants eat some varieties of Grass... like Fibre-varities like Sugar-cane , Bamboo-type shrubs which are Biologically termed as Grass... but in the Forest wealth... they are not classified as Grass... based on the Practical aspect by way of Utility. So to say Sugar-cane like Juicy Fibres are relished much by Elephants but Not the Horse...

What I meant was the General classification of grass... in the common-man's angle. In brief... I mean .. what is Food for One is rejected by the other..


//Human beings are vegetarian by choice and not by birth./

Will you please elaborate and Justify?... The scope of this Forum is to invite multi-fareous angles of divergent factors...Scientifically.

Please speak out more in detail... alongside your replies to all my questions raised hereabove.

Dear Mr.Sudhaama,
No need to feel bad. My remark about knowing Biology was meant as a suggestion to know more, not a taunt.
I am , may be the only hubber who walks on the farthest side of the road and have mildest temparament.
Confrontation is not my cup of tea.

Elephants do eat grass which is one of their choice items of food during the day .
I am quoting a piece from net.

"Common Name: African Elephant
Scientific Name: Loxodonta africana

Pachyderm Profile
The African elephant is the largest living land mammal, with its relative, the Asian or Indian elephant, coming in a close second. Adult African elephants reach a length of 18-24 feet and a height of 10-13 feet. They weigh in at 8,800-15,500 pounds. Maximum size is reached at around 25 years of age.

Habitat
African elephants are native to a wide variety of habitats, including semi-desert scrub, open savannas and dense forest regions. However, whereas elephants once ranged throughout Africa, they are now mostly confined to parks and reserves south of the Sahara Desert. Only about 20% of their range is under some form of protection.

Diet
In keeping with their enormous proportions, elephants are big eaters. In fact, they dedicate as many as 18-20 hours of the day to feeding. When full-grown, these huge herbivores can consume anywhere from 300-500 pounds of vegetation per day. In the wild, their diet consists mainly of grass, tree foliage, bark, roots, shrubs and fruit. They'll even ingest soil for its mineral content

UNQUOTE.

Human developed from flesh eating mammals as large as a cat or even smaller.
As millions of years went by, a lot of evolutionary changes took place. What is common among primates and apes is the presence of canine teeth which are four in number. Primary function of canine teeth is tearing flesh.
They are remenants of old legacy of flesh eating.
Humans are born non vegetarians by this fact.
Only due to subtitute their diet with whatever was available, as a means of survival they developed their tastes into accepting vegetarian diet.
Best example is Bear .
Bear is at home with whatever food it gets including fruits, vegetables and also grass .Bear is a true omnivorous animal.

I am sorry if I have pained you inadvertantly. Please accept my apology for my remarks.
Please be assured that it was a suggestion and not a scathing attack.

Rgds

HT

There is no doubt that man like his ancester ape, was a herbivorous, eating mostly fruits from trees, in the begining. When forests were replaced by savana grass land, he still ate few fruits and mostly tubers from the ground. As days passed by, he was a scavenger, eating the leftover corpses. He didn't know his strength then. When he learnt that meat keeps him stay without hunger pangs for longer periods, especially when he was migrating out of Africa by foot, it was very helpful for him. But, now people eat it purely for it's taste. Like some people prefer sweets over spicy food, some like fish and others like chicken. I basically consider vegetable to be bland, with no or subtle taste that you are not as picky as choosing a meat. But, still, you would know the difference between eating grass and egg plant.

Srini Sir, i was just about to tell you Trivediji didnt mean what his statements sounded like but he himself has clarified :D Take it easy.

I am not that much convinced by the non vegetarian argument. Here are the reasons:

The digestive juices in the human body are less concentrated compared to carnivores.
The amount of acidic content in saliva of humans(pH value) is far less compared to that of carnivores. Just look at dogs/foxes, how frothy their saliva is.
The intestinal column of humans is very lengthy compared to flesh eating animals. Food takes longer to be digested in humans compared to animals, since it is not broken down easily.
A nonveg meal(Indian) is very greasy with lots of oil and heavy doses of masala to be put in it, to overcome the smell of dead flesh and make it pleasant to the tongue. It is disgusting to wash the grease/flesh stained utensils after cooking. Imagine all that stuff inside your delicate stomach :shock: And you have no idea what kind of unclean substances were present in the animal consumed!!!

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I basically consider vegetable to be bland, with no or subtle taste that you are not as picky as choosing a meat. But, still, you would know the difference between eating grass and egg plant.

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Nonveg is even more bland, it is consumable only because heavy amount of spices are added to overcome its natural taste and smell. The beauty of veg food is that it tastes fine and healthy even without any addition of spice.

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as far i know, there are vegetarians in mankind. but i dont see a non-vegetarians in mankind.

there may be a person - both vegetarian and non-vegetarian but not non-vegetarian alone.

some people accept only vegetarian and never accept non-veg food, and some accept the both.

to add further,

availability of non-veg is not only in the form of food nowadays. we have meat and fats as ingredints in many things. so i wonder whether we have a category called vegetarian at all.

:)

ayyO suresh.. visu style-A eheyO solli... I'm breaking my head :banghead:

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I basically consider vegetable to be bland, with no or subtle taste that you are not as picky as choosing a meat. But, still, you would know the difference between eating grass and egg plant.

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Nonveg is even more bland, it is consumable only because heavy amount of spices are added to overcome its natural taste and smell. The beauty of veg food is that it tastes fine and healthy even without any addition of spice.

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Well, taste differs from person to person. But, here the discussion is, what was early man eating. I just said, he ate fruits to begin with then tubers were added, finally he started to eat flesh not because of the taste but because Africa was becoming a desert when Ice caps in the poles were sucking out all the moisture. So, less availability of forest with trees, so friuts and more grass lands with animals. It was just survival of the fittest.

BTW, if I were an early (wo)man, and I had pleaty of Mangoes, Bananas and Jack fruits, I wouldn't have become a non-veg :wink: But, what happened was different.

ok point taken

(1) For every God- created Living-Being,... .... He has created alongside.... the Apt variety of Food too.... matching with its .... Functions and Purpose of Life on Earth .... Correct?

Amongst the Creatures if we classify as the

(a)Mighty by Wisdom and born Soft-natured and endowed with only Defensive Bodily-features
(b)Mighty by Physical-Strength with Wild Offensive Bodily-features

Man is classified as the Most Brainy-Animal... and so considered under (a) Category above.... along with Monkey, Elephant, Horse, Bull, Deer etc.

Lion is classified as the Most wild-animal with a Commanding capacity over all other Creatures... considered under (b) category along with Tiger, Jackal, Fox, Dog etc.

(2) Suiting to acquire.... its prescribed Food.... change into convenient form for eating... and further to digest it too... the Nature has provided the apt Physical Organs like... Teeth, Nails, Limbs, Saliva, Stomach as well as the well-matching Digestive-System on the whole coupled with the Assimilative innate Mechanism too which varies amongst the Creatures according to its Functions and Purpose of Existence on Earth.... Correct?

(a)All the Vegetarian Animals comprises of Monkey, Elephant,Deer, Bull, Horses, Rabbit etc.

(b)All the Non-Vegetarian Animals like Lion, Tiger, Jackal, Fox, Dog etc. form into one Group

(3) It is an interesting Point to observe... that the Horse eats Grass ... but Not Leaves.. while the Elephant eats Leaves Not the Grass... and the Monkey eats only Fruits ... Not the Grass or Leaves... even though all these are the Varieties of Vegetarian Edible-stuff containing abundant Vitamins, Minerals and such other
Nutritious Ingrediants vital for Life.... Why So?

In brief... whether classified as Grass or Leaf or Fibre... the Type of Food eaten by one Specy of Vegetarian is not acceptable to another Vegetarian creatures. One's Food is another's Poison?

(4) Similarly Non-Vegetarian Creatures too are choosy... why ? Suppose we feed them with different Food-variety... why it hates.... or lead to illness... although all are Non-Vegetarian Foods of abundantly rich Nutritious value?.... Why?

(5) Irrespective of the one of the Varieties of Food each Vegetarian or Non-Human-Creatures eat ... all those Specific Vegetarian Species ...... form into ONE Broad Group... by way of its Living-manners and Habits, as well as Inborn Physical-features too... and Similarly to the other Group too.... Is it Not?... How?.... Why?

(6) All the Born Non-Vegetarian Species eat their Non-Veg. Food without any difficulty ... as the Main Dish without any dire Supplements. Whereas Man is able to eat the Non-Veg. Food Only as the SIDE-DISH...and Not the Main-Dish... which is invariably the Vegetarian stuff. Why so?

Comparison between Vegetarian and Non-Vegetarian Animals .....

Vegetarian Animals .................................................. ... Vs ...Non-Vegetarian Animals.
(Monkey, Elephant, Deer, Bull, Horse etc.).......... (Lion, Tiger, Jackal, Dog, Cat etc.)

1. SALIVA : Alkali .................................................. ............. Acid

2. STOMACH-SECRETION : More of Alkali ................ More of Acids.

3. TEETH : Cutting and Munching Teeth more .......... Tearing and Piercing Teeth More.

4. BIRTH: Pregnancy period Longer upto 12 mhs ....... Short... Not more than 6 months.

5. CALF-BIRTH: Active from Birth - Open-Eyed ......... Inactive with Closed-Eyes for a Few-days

..... Similar to Mankind........................................... .................. Contrary to Mankind.

.... To continue.

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1. SALIVA : Alkali .................................................. ............. Acid

2. STOMACH-SECRETION : More of Alkali ................ More of Acids.

3. TEETH : Cutting and Munching Teeth more .......... Tearing and Piercing Teeth More.

4. BIRTH: Pregnancy period Longer upto 12 mhs ....... Short... Not more than 6 months.

5. CALF-BIRTH: Active from Birth - Open-Eyed ......... Inactive with Closed-Eyes for a Few-days

..... Similar to Mankind........................................... .................. Contrary to Mankind.

.... To continue.

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Have you ever checked the pH of your own "Saliva", Mr. Sudhaama????

Make sure what you are saying is correct, please?

Because u r trying to theorize something based on your data from wherever you got them. I dont know from where u got them.

If your data is wrong, then your theory will flunk pretty badly. Nobody can help you! Please be careful!:)

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Originally Posted by Hemant Trivedi

If man was born vegetarian, he would not have DRAGON TEETH.
He would have only MOLARS. :roll:

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Are you referring to "canine teeth"? If life which began as a single celled ameoba and has evoled to all the genous and species on present earth, I don't think it would be difficult to develop canine teeth after human beings started to eat flesh. Moreover to eat flesh, he has to be either be a hunter (it needs lots of skills and tools) or a scavenger. To begin with he didn't have these skills. He was not born as a hunter. I have also read that he ate the bone marrow (lot of fat and some blood tissues) when he was a scavenger. So, he probabily didn't need canine at that time.

1) I do not think there are any 100% Vegetarian people around... you may call them "mostly" vegetarian. Most of the Vegetarian of Indian origin do consume "Dairy" products.. I am not sure anybody will consider milk as vegetarian.

2) Sudhamma says vegetarians eat everything... thats also not true... I know some vegetarians who do not eat roots (any thing underground).
3) I have read somewhere that "uncooked" vegetarian food is best for human body. "uncooked" non-veg food is the worst. Some African tribes eating "uncooked" vegetable diet have highest life expectancy, and Eskimos surviving mostly on meat have shortest life expectancy.

4) Now in present times, it is more to do with choice and customs, than what suits to our body.

There is nothing "scientific" about... may be "evolutionary"??

Sudhaama, what is your basis for the various acid-alkai classification? Could you clearly post your 'postulates' in specific tabular form; I have a hard time deciphering your post :roll:

Thank you! :)

OK, I tried looking at left hand side (LHS) vs right hand side (RHS).

LHS (Veg animals) or more appropriately 'herbivores'; RHS(Non- veg animals) 'carnivores' .
Now veg animals are more like humans - is this what you are implying? If so, on behalf of all physiologists I beg to differ with your 'notion' that stomach secretions are 'more alkali'. The human gastric fluid pH is around 1.3 on a pH scale of 1 - 14 which is theorized as follows:

1-------------------------------------7----------------------------------14
Strong acid-----------------------Neutral------------------------Strong Base

Anyway, humans could be classified as 'omnivores' based on their feeding patterns since as a general population, we consume both plant-based and meat-based foods.

To answer your question #6:
In Western civilization, meat is the 'entree' or the main dish such as steak and vegetables are side dishes such as green beans, potatoes, etc. You have framed your question with the Indian subcontinent food culture as the basis, while this topic seems to encompass the entire human race, so I'm gathering quite a bit of disconnect :roll:

//In Western civilization, meat is the 'entree' or the main dish such as steak and vegetables are side dishes such as green beans, potatoes, etc.//

Yes... You are correct...In the case of Africans it is still more different and unique.... almost the whole content is the Non-Veg. Varieties... with the least of Veg sometimes !!... Thus I am giving you more supportive points.

But you have to note Two factors ...

(1) In the case of Majority of the Non-Veg- habitual Eaters.... all around the world.... are they able to consume at ease... the Non-Veg without a part of Veg dishes... similar to known Non-Veg. Creatures like Tiger, Cat, Dog ....?

(2) Are they Not ... artificially supporting their body natural mechanism... by means of Drugging ALCOHOL... an Acid-substance to digest Non-veg..... which is Naturally abundant for Lion Tiger and the like species born for Non-Veg. ?...

Which Digestive-base is lacking in man?.... being endowed with more of Alkali secretions to digest Veg- Substances only?

// You have framed your question with the Indian subcontinent food culture as the basis, while this topic seems to encompass the entire human race, so I'm gathering quite a bit of disconnect Rolling Eyes//

Not necessary for Rolling-eyes... my dear Friend.... Indeed the Topic's concern is the whole of Mankind. ... Not Indian alone...If you keenly observe.... the trend... you can see... I am building up data after data to arrive at the Final-Conclusion.... which You all can make easily...at the End of this Topic.

In the mean time... I am taking one and all of you friends with me Hand-in-Hand... whether Pro or Anti on the Discussion-Table.

Sudhaama,

Let me clarify that I said that the human 'gastric fluid' is acidic; gastric only refers to stomach here. Human intestinal fluid is alkaline ranging from a pH of 6 to 8 through the small and large intestines. You had stated that the stomach secretions are alkaline which is not true.

I don't understand why this should be a surprise that humans are 'omnivores', in contrast with the 'carnivorous' animals. We grew out of our 'hunter-gatherer' stage and started cultivating our own foods- grains, cereals, pulses, fruits and vegetables. Apart from that, we kept our taste for meat by raising poultry for meat and eggs, cattle for meat and milk, etc.

Meanwhile, all the 'non-veg' animals you mentioned are primarily predatory in nature. They hunt their food and devour them as such. Cats and dogs you mentioned have been domesticated and fed fancy 'chows' by the humans. So they have grown accustomed to cooked and processed food. So they no longer are 'strictly' carnivorous, they eat 'vegetarian' foods too. For eg., domesticated cats in India, are fed 'curd rice' or 'yogurt rice' and they have no problems with that. In fact, a couple of cats raised in our household were such connoisseurs of the 'curd rice' that they would not eat their meal if the curd is a bit sourer than usual!!!

But I agree that in the wild, these animals adapt to the environments such that they can survive on the hunted prey as the sole means of nutrition.

So, it seems to me to be very clear that circumstances dictate food habits and in the case of humans, since our ancestors have both hunted and cultivated their food, we retain both meat and plant-based food as our sources of nutrition. :)

Hi Mr. Sudama,

I actually didn't understand your posts. If you can clearly state what you are saying and why, we could either agree or disagree with you.

--Thanks.

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very interesting article:

http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/mar/14msg1.htm

8-)

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I'm for Vegetarianism.......but I guess its a personal choice!!

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Dear Sudhama,

I don't understand where this topic and hence the concultion will lead to, as long as people relish whatever they eat be it Chinese, Pygmies Or the Eskimos there is no probs. Also that since Human being is able to digest both the veg and the non-veg food very well he is designed for both of these foods.

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Dear Sudhama,

I don't understand where this topic and hence the concultion will lead to, as long as people relish whatever they eat be it Chinese, Pygmies Or the Eskimos there is no probs. Also that since Human being is able to digest both the veg and the non-veg food very well he is designed for both of these foods.

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What does the contemporary Mankind relish, prefer by oneself is not the Question here.... nor this Thread-Topic for discussion.... but..

... as per Heading : Mankind BORN-VEGETARIAN Scientifically?

So to say.... By nature, there are Two broad classifications on the Groups of Creatures by birth... as Vegetarians and Non-Vegetarians

For example... Dog, Cat, Lion,Tiger, Eagle,Crow etc are NON-VEGETARIANS by birth

... while the Elephant, Horse,Cow, Sheep,Monkey,Parrot, Sparrow etc. are VEGETARIANS by birth.

Amongst these two Groups, we can find their characterics and Physical-Organs for eating and digesting... within the relevant Group are BROADLY UNIFORM.

To quote a fw amongst many.... all the Vegetarian Species are born EYES-OPEN... ACTIVE RIGHT FROM BIRTH...TEETH SUITED TO VEG. Edibles prominently.... Saliva is Alkali... etc..

...whereas it is contrary in the other case : Non-Vegetarians

Mankind matches to the Vegetarian-Characterestrics SCIENTIFICALLY...as above...

...as claimed by the INTERNATIONAL VEGETARIAN SOCIETY.

What does our Friends here have got to say...PRO OR ANTI?.. Why? and How?

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Whereas... amongst the Vegetarians ... there are no Sub-Classifications... All vegetarians do not avoid any category of Fruits, or such Edibles... but may only have preferences....and Not by aversion like the other Category.... Why? How? ...

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No, I don't think that's true , I know a vegetarian who has an aversion for watermelon, papaya, Snake Gourd, Bitter Gourd & Gherkins!

Most ppl even vegetarians hate Bitter Gourd......!!!!.

But yes, I totally agree that Humans are meant to be Vegetarians although when I see certain ppl's canines, I begin to doubt that!

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Most ppl even vegetarians hate Bitter Gourd......!!!!.

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Such as urs truly here! :D

I like fried Bitter Gourd Rings put in yoghurt- yummy side dish!

Until we are weaned from breast milk, each one of us is a non-vegetarian. (Funny, most so called vegetarians of India who drink cow's milk think milk is vegetarian).

Ppl who don't use any kind of animal products like milk or eggs is called VEGAN
Milk users- Lacto vegetarians
Egg users- Eggatarians/ovotarians
Vegetarians who use both egg & milk- Lacto Ovotarians
This is what I read somewhere.

consider this question

men have a higher level of intelligence than an animal. therefore men can able to differentiate what they prefer to eat.

there is also moral dillemmas surrounding this topic
.. men know what is right/wrong for them..

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Quote : ALBERT EINSTEINE - Scientist

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth...

... as much as the evolution to a VEGETARIAN DIET."