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How to Read and Write Posts in Thamizh Script ?
Topic started by neo_morpheus (@ ppp-219.65.96.193.chn.vsnl.net.in) on Mon Jun 23 16:18:02 .
This has been a source of concern for many of the friends here. Some of them have already found out how to read and write thamizh scripts, and also are aware of the tools and fonts which are needed for that purpose.
I'm giving the necessary info regarding this issue, which various people have provided in other threads here.(Special mention : punnahai and madurai veeran)
A lot of people have used 'Murasu Anjal' to compose and post in thamizh script prior to this. But, it is quite a cumbersome process to do it using Murasu's Thamizh text editor.
There is a new, exciting tool which enables us, hassle-free, to write in thamizh script - called
'e-kalappai'. This tool is a free-to-download tool, created by the generous volunteer work of thamizh techno-geeks under the aegis of www.tamil.net , created by Bala Pillai and Muthu Nedumaran.
If you want to just READ webpages which have thamizh scripts/content in it, all you need is a single font -'TSC_Avarangal' - and you can download that fontfile(.ttf) from here :
http://www.tamil.net/tscii/tools.html
In that link, just download that TSC_Avarangal font file(.ttf) from the 'Fonts' link.
It would be better if you could download and install all other 'TSC'(TSCII standard) fonts from that link in addition to 'TSC_Avarangal'.
If you want to WRITE/POST thamizh script/content here, you may want to download and install the
'e-kalappai' tool from here :
http://www.tamil.net/tscii/tools.html
Just look in that page under 'Keyboard drivers' link.
The 'e-kalappai' tool let's you to directly 'type' in thamizh scripts in the response box. All you need to do is:
* After downloading that tool, re-start your system, so that the system's registry gets updated.
* Configure your IE browser by choosing 'View' from the Browser menubar, under that 'Encoding' option - make it 'User-defined'.
You can use 'e-kalappai' to compose thamizh script/content in :
* notepad
* word document
* discussion group response-boxes etc..
Remember :
If you want to just READ thamizh scripts, 'TSC_Avarangal' font is enough.
If you need to WRITE, start the e-kalappai tool and run it in background. Press ALt + 2 for beginning to write in thamizh, and if you want to revert back to normal english typing - Press ALT + 1. simple!.
I request our friends here to update/add any new info regarding reading/writing thamizh scripts. People can post the queries here to get their doubts cleared.
" ¾Á¢ú ±í¸û ¯Â÷×ìÌ Å¡ý - þýÀò
¾Á¢ú ±í¸û «º¾¢ìÌî ͼ÷¾ó¾ §¾ý "
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P.S :
TSCII - Thamizh Standard Code for Information Interchange.
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neo_morpheus (@ ppp-*) on: Mon Jun 23 16:27:38 EDT 2003
I thought of adding one more link, which was provided by 'punnahai' elsewhere. In addition to the fonts/tools i have mentioned, you can check out this tool too :
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Check this link for typing in Tamil.
I think if you cut and paste you might be able to read too. You dont need any fonts.
http://www24.brinkster.com/umarthambi/db/mail.asp
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Kajan (@ cpe0*) on: Mon Jun 23 18:20:43 EDT 2003
Neo.
there is already a thread to read / write in tamil.
I forgot to tell tell u.
anyway .. weldone.
when i tried my friend's computer, i realised that ekallapai is necessary to read in tamil also.
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Shakthi (@ 203-*) on: Tue Jun 24 03:46:22 EDT 2003
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* Configure your IE browser by choosing 'View' from the Browser menubar, under that 'Encoding' option - make it 'User-defined'.
I have under encoding
auto select
western european windows
more
(more has chinese, turkish etc)
under no options do i have USER DEFINED..
can u plz tell me more
thx
note: I downloaded e-kalappai and i am able to read now in tamizh
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Roshan (@ 203.*) on: Tue Jun 24 04:01:31 EDT 2003
Neo,
Good Job!!
Shakthi,
>> under no options do i have USER DEFINED..>>
I presume you wanted to say 'more option' not 'no options'. Yes from the more option choose user defined.
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Roshan (@ 203.*) on: Tue Jun 24 04:08:59 EDT 2003
I'm just copying a post made by Punnahai in another thread regarding reading/writing in Thamizh. I have not tried it so far.
From: :) (@ d150-188-147.home.cgocable.net) on: Thu Jun 12 16:19:24 EDT 2003
check this link for typing in Tamil. I think if you cut and paste you might be able to read too. You dont need any fonts. http://www24.brinkster.com/umarthambi/db/mail.asp
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Roshan (@ 203.*) on: Tue Jun 24 04:16:45 EDT 2003
Neo,
I have a doubt, how do I compose thamizh scripts in word document? I followed the same method used for typing in Notepad, but it does not work in Word.
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Shakthi (@ 203-*) on: Tue Jun 24 07:03:14 EDT 2003
hey roshan,
thx
i did not see that down arrow key.........
i did update it now
thx to all neo, kajan and roshan
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neo_morpheus (@ ppp-*) on: Tue Jun 24 13:14:00 EDT 2003
Roshan,
I shall check out the problem that you have stated and get back to you later.
Shakthi,
Great going! Please spread the news about the thamiz fonts and 'e-kalappai' tool to as many friends of yours as you can!. Infact, that is the request from the creators of this 'e-kalappai' tool, tamil.net.
They want this tool to be popularized across a wide cross-section of people so that more and more web pages/sites have thamizh content.
Let us spread the 'script' of 'e-kalappai !!!'.
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neo_morpheus (@ ppp-*) on: Tue Jun 24 18:58:43 EDT 2003
Roshan,
'e-kalappai' will work in Word Document too.
All you have to do is after opening a 'New' Document make sure the font selection(in the menubar) is 'TSC_Avarangal'. If it is not already TSC_Avarangal then change it to that font.
Now start typing just as u would do in the forum's response box(ALT + 2 for thamizh mode). The same holds true(changing selected font to 'TSC_Avarangal')
for notepad too.
I guess it sh'd work.
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Kajan (@ cpe0*) on: Tue Jun 24 20:46:31 EDT 2003
Shakthi,
it is nice to know that u can read / write in tamil
Roshan,
for me it is working in word, my sister told it is working for aol email account also. she is sending emails in tamil. I am very glad to read them in tamil. unfortunately it is not working in yahoo email account
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neo_morpheus (@ ppp-*) on: Wed Jun 25 15:50:10 EDT 2003
Kajan
I have also found that this thamizh-typing does not 'directly' work in many e-mail accounts. We can send the thamizh scripts, but if we receive it, we won't be able to directly 'read' the thamizh script on the e-mail page. We'd have to copy&paste them on to notepad under TSC fonts to read them.
But e-kalappai works perfectly in word document,wordpad etc for me.(Make sure that the font under which we type in word doc. is a TSC font).
I have also opened a similar thread to this one in the Tamil Literature - KavidhaigaL web-board section.
http://www.forumhub.com/poems/2947.19.38.32.html
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Kajan (@ cpe0*) on: Wed Jun 25 18:16:44 EDT 2003
Neo,
as i said i can read aol emails in tamil also.
and i never had probelms in word.
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Roshan (@ 203.*) on: Thu Jun 26 00:52:00 EDT 2003
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neo_morpheus_the_hopeful (@ ppp-*) on: Sun Jun 29 17:43:05 E
Roshan and all other friends here..
What more could we do to popularise 'writing in thamizh' here in forumhub?..can we exchange some suggestions.?...
I have opened this 'How to READ/WRITE in thamizh scripts' thread in
-Miscellaneous
-Tamil history
-Tamil Films
-Tamil literature(Main)
-Tamil kavidhaigaL
5 sections! but i find only a handful of people writing in thamizh scripts.
In 'venpA vadikkalAm vA' thread in tamil literature section, there are many ppl. posting in thamizh. But they are likea closed circle. They dont seem to visit other sections in forumhub.
And many friends in tamil kavidhaikal section seem nonchalant about reading/writing thamizh scripts = except for our friends who write in 'ulagam enbathu ..' thread.
I hope the scene would change soon!
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Roshan (@ 203.*) on: Wed Jul 2 02:39:55 EDT 2003
Neo,
Yes I know that yuo have opened this thread even in other section and as you say only a handful were enthusiastic to know about thamizh typing. Even though you have mentioned that e-kalappai is a hassle free tool for thamizh typing, I think most of them are still thinking that even the e-kalappai tool is cumbersome as other thamiz key boards. I think it would be better if you briefly explain with examples, that how easy this tool is for thamiz typing.
Remeber that, most of the people find lazy to look into details by themselves and expect spoon feeding :)
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neo_morpheus (@ ppp-*) on: Wed Jul 2 20:53:54 EDT 2003
Roshan!
that's a good point!
I shall do it the next time i come here.
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Idiappam (@ cach*) on: Thu Jul 3 07:51:25 EDT 2003
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Kajan (@ cpe0*) on: Thu Jul 3 15:24:16 EDT 2003
No I disagree with roshan,
there r lot of members using tamil fonts. thtey stirct to to some certain topic ( mainly literature ). they don't visit misse. section also.
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n_m (@ ppp-*) on: Thu Jul 10 19:05:15 EDT 2003
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neo_morpheus (@ ppp-*) on: Thu Jul 24 17:38:31 EDT 2003
Additional info for people who installed e-kalappai but could not 'Write' in thamizh :)
1. After installing e-kalappai you SHOULD re-start the system
2. You would notice a new icon in your system tray - which would be of 'Tauveltesoft Keyman' - which is the keyboard software which is bundled with e-kalappai
(this tray icon would look like a square with a slight slant)
3. right-click on that icon - you would get a list of options to be chosen.
4. From those - choose 'Keyman Configuration'
5. You would get a configuration box - which will have 2 tabs
i) keyboards
ii) options
In the 'keyboards' tab - there would be a 'Installed Keyboards' list. Most probably you would have only - 'TSCIIANJAL' listed there.
6. check the box near 'TSCIIANJAL' (put a tick)
7. And in the same 'keyboards' tab - see the other section called 'keyboard details'
you would notice 3 check boxes for 'Ctrl', 'shift' and 'Alt' and also a drop down box containing some options.
8. CHECK only the ALT box ,and from the drop-down list select 2.
(this effectively means that you can switch to 'thamizh writing' mode when you press ALT+2, when e-kalappai has been started and running in the background.)
9. Now go to the other tab - "Options"
There you would have 3 check boxes under "Keyman Off Hotkey"
Select/check/put a tick ONLY in the box near ALT.
And again, there would be a drop-down list near it;from there, choose 1.
(which effectively mean that - from thamizh mode if you want to switch back to normal "english typing" mode, you have to press ALT+1).
10. There will be another Section in the same "options" tab - called "General"
From there check the box near "Start Language indicator with keyman" (put a tick on that box).
11. Now - click on "Apply" and then on "ok".
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When you run e-kalappai in the background and press ALt+2 again you would notice that the tray icon - changes to '«' ( 'a' in thamizh script).
That means you can start typing in thamizh!
Friends please carefully follow the steps - and give a feedback if it properly works now.
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neo_morpheus (@ ppp-*) on: Thu Jul 24 18:25:03 EDT 2003
Now - regarding 'Configuring' the Internet Explorer browser - to be able to 'READ' thamizh scripts - please note the following points :
* If your browser is IE, try this :
In the browser menubar -click on 'view' and under it - click on 'Encoding'; you would see a lot of encoding options there like arabic,chinese,japanese et al.
Among those options - find the option 'User-defined'.
It would be listed if you clicked 'More' under that 'Encoding' option.
* Select 'User-defined' and then 'Refresh' the page. you'd probably get to read thamizh scripts on the page directly, if you did this.
* When setting the encoding to "User Defined" , also uncheck "Auto-Select" in the same menu. You dont have to restart(re-start may be required in some cases).
* Then in your IE browser :
Choose 'Tools' from menubar.
Tools-->Internet Options--> Fonts-->
Choose "User Defined" in "Language Script" list-box of options.
Now in the section below that - You'd find a list of fonts.
From that - choose TSC..fonts in the two Font selection windows..Click Ok twice...
* You should now be able to read pages where TSC fonts are used. Your settings in the Browser are the ones which will determine if you can read Tamil directly or not.
(thanks for all the friends who have generously contributed info regarding this)
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:) (@ d150*) on: Thu Jul 24 20:56:52 EDT 2003
neo, great job!!
one question. Do you we have to choose Anjal? cant we use avarangal? I thought anjal does not work without installing murasu software.
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neo_morpheus (@ ppp-*) on: Fri Jul 25 20:30:50 EDT 2003
Punnhai,
I guess u r right abt. that TSCANJAL keyboard. I'll get back to u later :-)
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Pela Vanthan (@ prox*) on: Sat Jul 26 12:11:20 EDT 2003
http://www.tamil.net/tscii/tools.html
Almost all the font files in that web page are unavailable including the avarangal font. I either get "file not found" or "you are not authorized" message from the yahoo group where I am redirected to.
That website is pure crap.
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concerned (@ prox*) on: Sat Jul 26 14:02:47 EDT 2003
//That website is pure crap.//
mmc, seek some help from family and friends before it is too late. may be you are a good man at heart and all the hatred poured by your rss friends is ruining your mental balance. get the support of your family and friends.
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Pela Vanthan (@ prox*) on: Sat Jul 26 20:59:18 EDT 2003
Dear sir,
I am not MMC. My ID is a funny twist of the ID mmc uses to post his nonsense in this forum from proxify.com. He uses an ID called Alavanthan. I also think that MMC is the worst sort of scumbag to hit this forum. so dont call me mmc.
I am interested in Tamil fonts because I am interested in reading the Tamil posts and also to post in Tamil.
But the website does not allow anyone to download most of the font files. Go there and try for yourself. you will see what I mean.
http://www.tamil.net/tscii/tools.html
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neo_morpheus (@ 219.*) on: Sun Jul 27 01:02:02 EDT 2003
>> Pela Vanthan (@ proxify.com) on: Sat Jul 26 20:59:18 EDT 2003
It indeed seems that there is a 'temporary' problem in downloading TSC fonts from that tamil.net link.
However, you can still downoad e-kalappai tool from that link. There doesn't seem a problem doing that.
Now if you are interested in downloading 'TSC' fonts - there is another alternative.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5180/tsctools.html
You have lots of TSC fonts there and other resources. so try downloading from there.
The problem in tamil.net webpag - would most probably a temp. one, i suppose. But there are indeed other alternative links for downlading TSCII fonts, one of which i have mentioned above.
As i said u can still download e-kalappai from tamil.net. :-)
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Pela Vanthan (@ prox*) on: Sun Jul 27 01:24:18 EDT 2003
neo_morph
Tnx very much for the info. Much appreciated!
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Pela Vanthan (@ prox*) on: Sun Jul 27 01:27:34 EDT 2003
I think I should change my ID as people may feel uncomfortable calling some by dat name! :)
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Harish Kumar (@ 203.*) on: Mon Jul 28 01:36:10 EDT 2003
Why do you morons want to post in this yechhh ugly Tamil script? Use a real language like Kannada or Hindi. Kannada language is sweeter and the kannada script is so pleasing compared to this UGGGGGGLY Tamil script.
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:) (@ d150*) on: Mon Jul 28 09:01:29 EDT 2003
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Harish Kumar (@ 203.*) on: Mon Jul 28 14:07:35 EDT 2003
Idiots like Neo and PA talk to themselves in this crytic language so no one can read and respond. Use a real language like Hindi/Kannada or post in english you idiots! Be courteous to your fellow posters!
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neo_morpheus (@ ppp-*) on: Mon Jul 28 16:16:02 EDT 2003
punnahai,
You'd asked a question previously..
>> one question. Do you we have to choose Anjal? cant we use avarangal? I thought anjal does not work without installing murasu software.
True. we can just work with avarangal 'font'.
But in my previous exhaustive steps on configuring e-kalappai tool - i was referring to 'TSCIIANJAL' keyboard which comes bundled with the e-kalappai tool.
That is, it gets installed along with e-kalappai tool, as the default keyboard to be used in e-kalappai.
Am i missing your point here? please elaborate :)
and now...
what was that exclamation about ???!..
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From: :) (@ d150-188-97.home.cgocable.net) on: Mon Jul 28 09:01:29 EDT 2003
neo!!!! >>
are u referring to my patient answers to this 'proxify' id?! :-)
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:) (@ d150*) on: Mon Jul 28 16:40:04 EDT 2003
"But in my previous exhaustive steps on configuring e-kalappai tool - i was referring to 'TSCIIANJAL' keyboard which comes bundled with the e-kalappai tool. "
neo,
It is a long time since I configured, so I had totally forgotten about this aspect. I just go alt+1 or 2 and never read that it was TSCII anjal key board.
Given the problems I have had using murasu anjal, I guess I didnt read your post in its entirety :) Sorry.
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neo_morpheus (@ ppp-*) on: Mon Jul 28 17:43:04 EDT 2003
punnahai,
it's ok :-)
Now i would like to reproduce some help from e-kalappai help-pages, on how to write and form thamizh words using e-kalappai tool.
That is, what english letters constitute in forming a thamizh word that you intend to type :
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¬í¸¢Ä ¯ûÇ£Î=====¾Á¢ú ¦ÅǢ£Î
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ammaa =========>«õÁ¡
aatu=========> ¬Î
ilai=========> þ¨Ä
ii=========> ®
utukkai=========> ¯Î쨸
uunjcal=========> °ïºø
eRumpu=========> ±ÚõÒ
eeni=========> ²½¢
ainthu=========> ³óÐ
ottakam=========> ´ð¼¸õ
ootam=========> µ¼õ
auvai=========> ¶¨Å
kaN=========> ¸ñ
kaakam=========> ¸¡¸õ
kiLi=========> ¸¢Ç¢
kiizee=========> ¸£§Æ
kuzi=========> ÌÆ¢
kuuttam=========> Üð¼õ
keeraLam=========> §¸ÃÇõ
keelvi=========> §¸ûÅ¢
kai=========> ¨¸
kompu=========> ¦¸¡õÒ
kooppai=========> §¸¡ô¨À
kauthaari=========> ¦¸ª¾¡Ã¢
¬ò¾¢î ÝÊ
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aRam ceya virumpu=========> «Èõ ¦ºÂ Å¢ÕõÒ
aaRuvathu cinam=========> ¬ÚÅÐ º¢Éõ
iyalvathu karaveel=========> þÂøÅÐ ¸Ã§Åø
iivathu vilakkeel=========> ®ÅРŢÄ째ø
utaiyathu viLampeel=========> ¯¨¼ÂРŢÇõ§Àø
uukkamathu kaiviteel=========> °ì¸ÁÐ ¨¸Å¢§¼ø
eN ezuththu ikazeel=========> ±ñ ±ØòÐ þ¸§Æø
eeRpathu ikazcci=========> ²üÀÐ þ¸ú
aiyamittu uN=========> ³ÂÁ¢ðÎ ¯ñ
oppuravu ozuku=========> ´ôÒÃ× ´ØÌ
oothuvathu oziyeel=========> µÐÅÐ ´Æ¢§Âø
auviyam peeceel=========> ¶Å¢Âõ §À§ºø
aqkam curukkeeL=========> «·¸õ ÍÕ째ø
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More help for any difficult word(s) would be provided if specific word(s) are quoted here. :-)
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Roshan (@ 203.*) on: Tue Jul 29 00:20:27 EDT 2003
Oh Neo!!! You have done a great job. This is what I suggested before ( hope you remeber). Oru nalla aasiriyan maathiri explain paNNI irukeenga :-).
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Karuvayan (@ cs24*) on: Tue Jul 29 02:28:03 EDT 2003
Harish, lets chase out Dr No Brain Neo Morpheus from FH. Let us start attacking whatever thread he posts at.
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Unmaivilembi (@ 166.*) on: Tue Jul 29 05:43:58 EDT 2003
Dear Harish,
"Use a real language like Hindi/Kannada or post in english you idiots!"
You are just joking aren't you? Asking for English to be used - I can understand.....but Hindi/Kannada? REAL languages...........? What makes these languages REAL?
If you were just kidding please ignore this post. I think Neo has started a very good thread and we shouldn't be wasting space here.
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