Whose music do u think suits well for Rajini's movies?
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Whose music do u think suits well for Rajini's movies?
Well...Illayaraja can give the best BGM for Rajini's movies and his songs for Rajini's movies are usually class...but if you want to have a rajini intro song then ARR would be best....the rest are quite suitable for his movies.
Actually 2 choices:
If Rajini does a mass Rajini-centric movie of the 'Annamalai', 'Basha' kind, I'd hand it to Deva.
Otherwise: Ilayaraja :thumbsup:
Vidyasagar kind of did a poor job in Chandramukhi. Even though Devuda made rounds during those days. Nothing beats the effect created by 'Vandhenda Paalkaran' :notworthy:
Hulkster,
Which intro song you are talking about :?: Its Raja Who has given Best intro's for rajini ARR stands only next best for Intro songs of rajini. IR's songs gave much pep for the rising superstar in his early years. songs like 'Pothuvaaga enmanasu' 'ennoda raasi nalla raasi' 'velai illathavan thaan' 'rajavukku raaja naanthaan' 'rakkamma kaiya thattu' are some of the songs which gave the lever for Rajini's superstardom. all these songs are evergreen and still popular among Rajini Fans.
Infact most of the Rajini fans are IR fans too and they run a separate website for hosting Raja's songs along with rajinifans.com .
From other MD's the best intro's are 'En peru padaiyappa' ' oruvan oruvan muthalaali' by ARR and 'naan autokaaran' ' vanthenda paalkaaran' by Deva.
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Originally Posted by narayanan
hmmm ya i do agree Deva was better than ARR/IR in introducing Rajini in those songs but still i would prefer a 'othungu othungu' from maaveeran or ' pothuvaaga enmanasu' from murattu kaalai.
Well although IR did the best intro songs for Rajini....remember that he himself got interested in doing such songs and wanted to go completely musical....but as for now the best intro songs are done by ARR but of course IR still has the ability to produce excellent intro songs...ragupathi raagava from Heyram...that one song tells the determination of the main character.
Given 2 movies I think even ARR did well
Oruvan oruvan mudhalaalee and its preludes .....
Singa nadai potu sigarathil yeru
all songs from both Muthu and padayapaa are super hits.....
it so happened that during Rajini's peak, IR was holding the fort ....
else even ARR would have done well....
However, if you go by history, it was IR only as his records speak volumes
IR had given variety like
1.Sandhana kaatrey sendhamiz ootrey...
2. Pesa koodadhu
3. Yenna sugamaana ulagam
4. Pon oviyam kandenamma engengum
5. Oru poovanathula
6. Oorai therinikitten
7. Ponmaanay sangeetham paadevaa
8. Venmegam mannil vandhu
9. Oru thanga radhathil
10. Aagaaya gangai
11. THE ENTIRE JOHNY SONGS
List is endless !
IR & Deva will give that typical intro for Rajini,i guess they dont dare to take the risk to experiment on Rajini intro with changing any of the elements of an NORMAL RAJINI INTRO song....ARR has daringly changed many...Oruvan Oruvan had a grand opening,while En Peru Padaiyappa started off with just simple beats and then again Dippu Kumari something grand opening with punjabi flavour & ofcource,Shankar Mahadevan singging the song,instead of SPB.all his intro songs by ARR has neat arrangements & fresh music.Devuda Devuda was 1 of the funniest song i ever heard...see how Vidhyasagar simply followed ARR by using Oruvan Oruvan's intro style & Dippu Kumari's punjabi flavour for it...but he played it safe by using SPB.not sure hows the response for Dippu Kumari in Tamil Nadu...but it was a hit among youths here in Malaysia....still remember how all the indians will sing that song during school days....
ARR also gave a classy Minsara kanna for Rajini ......
was not far behind........
Any Good music director can suit Rajni, cuz when they do compose songs and music for the movie they work harder than usual. The music directors add pep to the proceedings with special effects.
HOw did you forget Chandrabose?? He was the guy who composed the song "Superstaaru Yaarennu Keatta"
How far Rajini gets involved in song selection ?? any idea ? I know Kamal is deeply involved in song composition of late
IMHO,
As far as the INTRO & BGM for Rajini is concerned, still Deva is the best (atleast for the recent trend).
who can forget his BGM -- Baatshaa.... Baatsha...
& his INTRO SONGS
1. vandenda paalukkaaran
2. naan auto kaaran auto kaaran
3. Baatsha song
etc
ARR - :roll: Apart from Oruvan Oruvan Muthalali , nothing else.. (IMHO)
IR -- wow.. No one can beat this man if RK needs an INTRO (with village folk etc).. esp "poDuvaaGa eN Manasu thaNgam" which can still raise the blood circulation .. :thumbsup:
nope...Rajini doesnt interfere but the MD & DIR is the 1 will compose the song base on Rajini's super star status... wut i heard lately Rajini is not involving himself in the MUSIC section in Shivaji....he let Shankar & ARR to decide which song & what song...knwing that Shankar & ARR is the best...Quote:
Originally Posted by S.Balaji
"IR & Deva will give that typical intro for Rajini,i guess they dont dare to take the risk to experiment on Rajini intro with changing any of the elements of an NORMAL RAJINI INTRO song....ARR has daringly changed many...Oruvan Oruvan had a grand opening" - hello dinesh, the above statements only show your myopic view of this topic. .
"they dont dare to take the risk to experiment on Rajini intro with changing any of the elements of an NORMAL RAJINI INTRO song.. " - Now can you answer me who laid this pattern of so called "Normal iRajini intro song" ? It was MSV and IR. So your "ARR only did this and that" statement rings hollow. MSV's "My name is Billa" and "Naan pollaadhavan" were anthems for the kids of 80's. The same goes for "podhuvaga en manasu". ARR's "oruvan", and Deva's "naan autokaaran" , albeit a grand opening , rode more on the political ipiggyback than solely for Rajini's acting or style or MD's whatever charisma.
Btw, my personal favourite is the evergreen, peppy "aasai nnoru vagai"
sung by MV from "adutha varisu"
i dunno y but IR fans seem to never come out of the shell.....shell- "I KNOW EVERYTHING"......Quote:
Originally Posted by thumburu
not all.... 8-)Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
but as for thumbhuru maapu....rathatthallai ooririche.... :lol: :lol: :lol: onnum seiya mudhiyathu...if he does changes...it will be the case of " Its a medical miracle" :lol: ...JK!! :wink:
Annamalai is <strike>a</strike> the landmark movie of Rajini. It revolutionised the concept, of the 'erangi-kuthu' type intro and a punch transition song. Though he had intros like 'Pothuvaga En Manasu', 'My name is Billa','Aasai Nooruvagai' (quite forgot, was this an intro song?). 'Vandhenda Paalkaran' and 'Vetri Nichayam' were trendsetters for 4 different movies. The songs did create a hype and the movie exceeded all expectations.
Its a joint work by the MD and the director, its upto the MD to live up to that expectations. And in a larger than life Rajini movie I wouldnt look for instruments or anything. These 2 songs (if present) should make me shout 'Thalaivaaaaaa' no matter how silent the theater is ;) :lol: Surely Annamalai, Basha and to an extent Arunachalam too did that.
Agreed Deva is an average MD, he copies blah-blah, but he did, he worked out very well, and so my vote for these kind of movies :thumbsup:
IR would've done it, but he was'nt experimented under this very same condition. He did do many past movies, but post-Annamalai the expectations totally differed.
ARR made a match in 'Padayappa'. 'Singanadai' and 'Vetrikodi Kattu' echoed all across Tamilnadu. Yes 'Oruvan Oruvan' was good too, but I did'nt feel it was the best of the lot, and 'Dippu Kumari' was the forgettable for 3 reasons: that stuppid humming in the start :?, SPB did'nt sing, I did'nt like the tune as much as the other intros. 'Sakthi Kodu' was good, but could be called the best of the lot type.
Here I am talking only about the larger than life portrayals. Sure there are other songs, but IMO for such type stories in a Rajini movie, the movie would live up with/for these 2 songs and if one screws up these songs, no matter how good the other songs are, it would be a disappointment. After all whats the fun in going to a such a movie without that.
I'll writeup another sometime later about why I said Ilayaraja otherwise. Till then I leave this post for counter-opinions :P
PS: no strikethrough tag :? thats what the <strike> tag meant in the first few lines.
but you should not be the person to talk abt it :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
it's the case for lots of ARR fans too :(
Iam Giving The complete List of Rajini-Raja Combination It should say it all :)
1 1977 Bhuvana Oru KelviKuri - Vizhiyilaemalarnthathu -RaajaEnbaar
2 1977 Gayathri - KaalaiPaniyil -VaazhvaeMaayama
3 1977 kavikuyil - ChinnaKannanAlaikiraan -KuyilaeKaviKuyilae
4 1977 pathinaaru vayathinilae -ManjaKulichi -SevanthiPooMudicha
5 1978 Aval Appadithaan - Uravugalthodarkathai -PaneerPushpanagalae
6 1978 Bairavi - KattapullaKuttapulla -Nanduooruthu
7 1978 Ilamai Oonjalaadugirathu -ThanneeKaruthiruchu -EnnadiMeenatchi
8 1978 Mullum Malrum - RaamanAandalum - SenthaazhamPoovil
9 1978 Priya - DarlingDarling -AkkaraiSeemai
10 1979 AarilirunthuArubathuvarai -Kanmaniyae kaathal -Vaazhkayaevesham
11 1979 AnnaiOarAalayam - Ammaneesumanthapillai -AppanaeAppanae
12 1979 Dharmayudham - AagayaGangai - Oruthangarathathil
13 1979 NaanVaazhavaipen - AagayamMelae -ThirutherilVarumSilayo
14 1980 AnbukkuNaanAdimai -KaatilOrusingakuttiyaam -Kaathodupoovuraasa
15 1980 EllamUnKairaasi - SerikuSevai - AdiOnkaariMaari
16 1980 Jhonny - AasaiyaKaathula -SenoRitaILoveYou
17 1980 Kaali - Vaazhumattum -ThithikkumMuthuCharam
18 1980 MurattuKaalai - PothuvaagaEnmanasu -EnthaPoovilumVaasam
19 1980 NaanPoattaSavaal - NenjeUnAasaiEnna -NattukkuleSila
20 1981 Garajanai - VaruvvaiAnbe -VanthathuNallathu
21 1981 Kazhugu - PonOviyum - KaathalEnnumKoyil
22 1981 Netrikan - Mappillaikku - RamaninMohanam
23 1982 EngaeyoKaettaKural - PattuVannaChelaiKaari -AathoramKaathaada
24 1982 PuthuKavithai - VaaVaaVasanthamae -VaareVaareVaaVaa
25 1982 ThanikaatuRaaja - NaanThaanToppu -SanthanaKaatre
26 1983 AduthaVaarisu - AasaiNooruvagai -PesaKoodathu
27 1983 PaayumPuli - AadiMaasamKaathadikka -PothukittuOothuthadi
28 1983 ThangaMagan - VaaVaaPakkamVaa -RathiriyilPoothirukum
29 1984 AnbullaRajnikaanth -Muthumani sudarae vaa- ThaenPoovaePoovae
30 1984 KaiKodukkumKai - AathaPethalae - ThazhamPoove
31 1984 NaanmaagaanAlla - MaalaiSoodumVelai -UnMelaOruKannu
32 1984 Nallavanukkunallavan - VachukavaUnnaiMattum -Unnaithaanae…
33 1984 ThambikkuEnthaOoru - EnVaazhvilae -KaathalinDeepamOndru
34 1985 KodaiMazhai - ThuppakkiKaiyilEduthu -ThenThoongumPoovae
35 1985 NaanSigappuManithan - EllorumaeThirudange -GandhiDesameKaaval
36 1985 Padikaathavan - SolliAdipaenadi -RajavukkuRaajaNaanthaan
37 1985 SriRagavendra - UnakkumEnakkum -AdalKalaiyae
38 1985 UnkannilNeerVazhinthaal -EnnaDesamo - KannilEnnaKaarkaalam
39 1986 Maaveeran - OthunguOthugu -NeeKoduthatha
40 1986 ManadhilUrudhiVendum -VangalaKadale - ManathilUruthiVendum
41 1986 Mr.Bharath - EnThayinMeethuAaanai -EnnammaKannu
42 1987 Velaikaaran - VelaiIllathavan -ThotathilaePaathi
43 1988 DharmathinThalaivan -Thenmaduraivaigainadhi -Muthamizhkaviyae
44 1988 GuruShishyan - NaarkaalikkuSandaiPodum- VaaVaaVanjiIlamaanae
45 1989 Mappillai - EnnodaRaasiNallaRaasi -UnnaithaanNithamNitham
46 1989 RajadhiRaaja - EnKittaMothathe -MalayaalaKaraiOram
47 1989 Siva - AdaMapillaSumma -AdiVaanmathi
48 1990 AthisayaPiravi - Thaathamthanakummi -AnnakiliyaSornakiliyae
49 1990 Panakaaran - NooruVarushamIntha -UllukkullaChakaravarthi
50 1991 DharmaDurai - Sandahikkuvandhakili -OnnurenduMoonunaalu
51 1991 Thalapathy - RakkammaKaiyaThattu -KaatuKuyilu
52 1992 Mannan - Kumthalakadi -Sandiraniyae
53 1992 Paandian - Ulagathukaaga -PandiyaanaaKokka
54 1993 Ejamaan - EjamaamKaaladi -OruNaaluUunaiMaravaatha
55 1993 Uzhaipaali - UzhaipaaliIllatha -MuthiraiIppothu
56 1993 Valli - DinguDanguRappapo -EnnulleEnnulle
57 1994 Veera - KonjiKonji -VaadiVethalaPaaku
As narayanan Has Pointed out Deva has given excellent songs for the 'larger than life ' Superstardom Image Of Rajini. But till he reached this point Raaja in complete 80's and early 90's and probably MSV in early 80's were the Ones who were experimenting with all kinds of songs for him. You can see a Dappankuthu or a disco or a pure melody like 'MalaiyalaKaraiyoram' for Rajini's Intro's. But still Rajini Intro songs were not a necessity then.
Thalpathy should have marked the Arrival of Rajini Being Introduced thro a song But it was not a necessity still. 'Mannan' or 'Veera' didnt have the typical Intro Songs as we see in todays Rajini Movies. Even then IR was experimenting with a 'Ulakathukaaga' in paandian-a typical MGR Intro Song alike. 'Ejamaan' had a 'EjamaanKaaladi' which was way too different for a rajini movie and 'Uzhaipaali' had 'Uzhaipaali Illatha'.
Analysing the songs IR gave for rajini We can naturally come to a conclusion that IR was not stopping anywhere with kuthu songs for Rajini and he was experimenting always.
But Deva knew what was right for Rajini. He just grabbed the oppurtunity and On the lines of 'Pothuvaaga Enmanasu' composed 'Vanthenda Paalakaaran' 'NaanAutokaaran' 'AthandaIthandaa' And established that a rajini intro songs should have SPB and Folk Rhythms.
ARR was a bit behind and started experimenting late but his songs were good too but it was not the right time. Muthu and Padaiyappa were great but 'Dippudippu' with the voice of SM and punjabi rhythms was never welcomed by RajiniFans here in TN period.
And i can only laugh at the sweeping statement like 'IR never experimented and Only ARR experimented'.
Rajini's songs were sung by MalaysiaVasudevan[Pothuvvaaga, Aasainooruvagai], SPB[Rakkamma,RajavukkuRajaanaanthaan], Yesudaas[AagayamMelae], Mano[EnnodaRaasi,EnkittaMothathae] and even Arunmozhi[AathulaAnnakili] at times.
Vishayam theiriyaatha ARR Fans are like Poonai's who keep their eyes shut :notworthy:
Exactly... :) If done we would've known how much more IR Could've blown up Rajini's Image :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by narayanan
Few rajasaranam missed:
3. Kavikuyil = kadhal oviyam kanden
16. Johnny - En Vanile, Katril En Geetham
23 Engeyo Keatta Kural - Ennulil Engo, Thayum Naane
24. Pudhukkavidhai - Vellai Pura Ondru
29. Anbulla Rajinikanth - Kadavul Ullame
31 Naan Mahaan Alla - Kalyanam Vaibogam
32.Nallavanukku Nallavan - Chittukku
35. Naan Sigappu Manidhan - Penmaane, Venmegam
36.Padikkadhavan - Oora Therinjukitten
37 Raghavendra - Rama Naamam, Guruve Saranam
38 Un Kannil Neer Vazhindhal - Malare Malare
42.Velaikkaran - Vaa Vaa Vaa Kanna
45 Mappillai - Ennadhan Sugamo
46 Rajathi Raja - Meenamma, Mama Un Ponna
47 Siva - Iruvizhiyin, Haiya haiya doi
50 Darma Durai - Aanenna, Annanenna, Maasi Maasam
51 Dhalapathi - Sundari
52 Mannan - Rajathi Raja
53 Pandian - Pandianin Rajiyathil, Anbe Nee enna
54 Ejaman - Nilave Mugam, Raaku Muthu, Aalapol
55 Uzhaippali - Kolakkili, Oru Maina
57 Veera - Madathile, Aathula Annaili
Narayanan I missed them... I tried to give atleast two songs from a movie-If possible a peppy song and a melody thats why i missed them :)
Yeah, just felt like giving that list a complete touch ;)
hello mr rajajalz....it was some people who condemned ARR for not using SPB for Dippu Kumari and that is y they never supported it...from ur own words it shows people was just against Dippu Kumari just coz it was BY ARRAHMAN and not coz its not sung by SPB..so in what ground can they condemn ARR coz he used SM for dippu when IR himself had used other singers too b4....also u telling coz dippu had punjabi rhythms thats y it was not welcome...how do u explain Devuda now???? :roll: ofcource i ws aware IR had used other singers for Rajini's MAIN song b4 but i purposely bring up this matter by tellilng ARR created a trend by using a 'new' singer for Rajini's intro song....coz i knew it would just make u guys burn & u will come up with this...ithe....ithethan naan ethurparthen....Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
so now tell me...y DIPPU kumari isnt welcomed in TN?? :wink:
There are two songs one is folkish and other one is fusion. They are
1) Pothuvaga En Manasu Thangam
2) Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu
None can match Thalapathy's Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu's standard :thumbsup:
wat experiment did ur guy do here???summa kadhula poo suthathinga.......yenya IR yenna pannalum adhu experimenta....'ulakathukaaga' - experimenta?? :shock: ........adhu enaa xperimento, song bit the dust miserably........and wat was so different in 'uzhaipaali Illatha' song???come on RS, i'm :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
on a serious note no xperiment can match ARR's usage of udit narayan for muthu song......it was a huge risk, if backfired it wud have been curtains for ARR....so there is no doubt that ARR innovates more than others for Rajini.......tell u wat he is himself singing for rajini in shivaji....... :lol:
MSV - Did a lot of popular movies like Billa, Thee, Pollathavan etc etc in the late 70s and early 80s ... :D
IR - Main reason behind the success of Rajini and Kamal in the 80s ... He's done soooooo many movies with Rajini, and almost all of them were Superhits ... :thumbsup:
Deva - Elevated Rajini to Superstar level with his BGM in Annamalai and Baasha !! :thumbsup:
ARR - Reminds me of the saying, "Oru Paana Sothukku Oru Sor Padham" .... Even though he's only composed for 3 movies so far with Sivaji being the 4th, I still feel his is the best suited for Rajini ... He made a normal masala movie like MUTHU look like a classy one just cos of his BGM ... And the intro song Oruvan Oruvan is easily the best for Rajini so far ... The BGMs in PADYAPPA where Rajini gets that snake, and the scene where Ramya Krishnan and Rajini meet after 18 years will have the whole scene (for abt 5 mins) with only BGM and no dialogues ..... And even the flop movie BABA has the record for the highest music seller .... So obviously I came back to GURUNAATHAR + THALAIVAR = BLOCKBUSTER formula !! :clap: :clap: :clap:
HJ - Since I also like Harris, I want Harris to work with Rajini atleast once ... Atleast for this, Rajini should act in the ARM movie next !! :P
its coz Mani Ratnam was there.... if it wasnt for Mani Ratnam....IR would have composed another tabla/tavil base song... :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
FYI, Murattukalai was SP.Muthuraman. Rajini did only one movie in the Mani-IR combo. If the combo did'nt work good, there would'nt have been an association for 17 years (Kavikkuyil -> Veera). Infact the first Rahman-Rajini movie was in 1995.Quote:
its coz Mani Ratnam was there
So what ? as long as the song is good, why would I be bothered about it ? If the song sucks, would a new instrument invented specifically for the movie make any difference to me ?Quote:
IR would have composed another tabla/tavil base song
FYKI, he was talking about STANDARD...not TASTE...that is why i brought MANI RATNAM in.... there is a big difference between Poduvaga song & Rakamma song...both SOUNDS VERY GOOD...but the STYLE & STANDARD r diff!!!! :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by narayanan
The topic is
WHich MD is best suited for Rajini's Movies !!
ARR worked in 3 movies only.In this list, 2 of them are only suited. Baba is not accepted ny the public.
In the case of MSV,
He also worked in some movies.L don't know the details,
In the case of IR,
He worked a lot of moveis. What is it means?
IR is accepted for Rajini's movies by the public.
At the time, each and every film was expected by the public for IR and Rajini combo !!! This is true !!!
As a reference of the topic, IR is mostly suited for RAjini's movies.
With Love,
Usha Sankar.
If Maddy doesn't have anything sensible to counter argue,he resorts to his fav pasttime of dragging IR Fans. Give us a break. Will you?and Dinesh, will u pls stop addressing me as "maapu" or thoppu.
Hub etiquette demands it. BTW, Iam not a "he".
Now, coming to the topic,
IR is the only MD who has addressed different dimensions of Rajini as an actor -
[ be it an amma/thangachi sentiment or lost lover or a loverboy lost in love or pining for an unrequited love . his delectable "thimirthanam" [Oh how I miss this Rajini !!!] - you name a mood, Raja would have covered it.
This is a fact that cannot be refuted. ARR or Deva or VS simply wERE not existing during Rajini's golden acting period .
How many varieties can we expect in an uni dimensional super star's films other than "thudipaadalgaL" or boring upadesa paadalGal?
ARR fans can just chill.
It is as simple as how IR can no where figure
if somebody were to discuss a SJSurya's or
Shahrukhkhan's songs or even the great Shivaji's songs
ohhh..thumburu ur a gal va.... :lol: sorry ye... :wink: yes thumburu.... if Rajini's golden days were with IR....so wut about the Rajini NOW???? :wink: its selfish to tell IR was the 1 with Rajini during his best days...coz even untill now Rajini is doing good...infact better than in 1980s...and its ARR & Deva is the 1 composing music for nowdays Rajini.... and ofcource u know wut response were for Batsha,Annamalai,Muthu & Padaiyappa movies & audio.... :wink: infact Deva was the 1 created the trend for a Terrific Theme Music for Rajini.... and ARR improvise that Theme music in many ways.... Baba & Chandramuki might be the weak albums of Rajini albums in since Batsha ....coz both the albums were diff in script ....
Thumburu and others....
When RK was at his peak, only IR was ruling and obviously the credit went to him but it in noway undermines ARR's abilities as a composer...
Given 3 chances, I think he did extremely well for all the 3 and all were super hits.....
ARR by no means inferior .....
but today , when we see RK movies, most of them were IR and naturally our assessment of best composer goes to IR only
Now someone will open a similar thread for Kamal also !
superbly answered !!! :clap: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by S.Balaji
guys guys.......please stop it...thumburu, wat is the need to argue with ppl. who have closed their minds on ARR??
idhu thevaya ramakrishna???? IR v/s ARR fight never ending pola irukku.... :cry:
Balaji, really priviliged to see ur post praising ARR......i guess MSV fans are not that bad either :lol:
Well i am trying to unite IR fans with ARR fans :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
ippadiye pesi pesi odamba rana galam aakkitangale........ :lol: :lol: ........kai pilla escapu....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramakrishna