KATHTHI - Ilayathalapathy VIJAY | ARM | SAMANTHA|ANIRUDH

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"எனது படம் ரிலீஸ் ஆகும் போது பட்டாசு வெடிகிறீங்க, கொண்டடுரீங்க, என்ஜாய் பண்ணுறீங்க எல்லாம் ஓகே ஆனால் பாலபிஷேகம் மட்டும் வேண்டாம் ஏனெனில் நம்ம நாட்டில ஒரு பால் பக்கெட் கூட வேண்டமுடியாத அளவுக்கு மக்கள் இருக்கிறாங்க அதனால் ஏன் அந்த புனிதமான பொருளை ஒரு கட்அவுட் மேல ஊத்தணும், இனிமேல் அப்படியான காரியங்களை செய்யாமல் இருந்தால் நான் சந்தோஷ மடைவேன்" என

idhai olunga follow panniyirundha oru vijay rasigarai naam izhandhirukka mattom

[ajaybaskar]

AP,

We know who are the genuine Vijay,Ajith fans in the hub and who the pretenders are. The pretender has been continuously posting provocative posts about Vijay in Ajith thread. But nobody even cared to nip him at the bud. You can browse through the old pages of your thread to check this. He posed as a Surya fan sometime back and when things didn't work out he wore the Ajith fan mask for his agenda. Many times I have seen him provocate people from this side by posting garbage in your thread and our guys assume him an Ajith fan and reply with crap. Do me a favor for oldtimes sake. If he provocates again, pls ask him to stop. Hub will be a better place.

[ArulprakasH]

AB.. I have insisted it in our thread many times and even others. When we could not stop, we started ignoring it. Intha last two pages la paarunga epdi comments nu.. itha ellathaiyum ungalala stop panna mudinjutha?

[Parthyy]

How do you prove that Vijay resorts to backdoor activities to make people ‘believe’ him as the Next Superstar? Can you quote some proven sources here?

Certain things doesnt need a Debate or discussion,its all calling Spade a spade.
One example i can give is Favourite actor award in Vijay TV...As we all know How impactfull are VijayTV shows now a days ..Mahendran has told one month back that Vijay would be receiving Favourite actor award..This was revealed in Event itself Then Y Fake Polls?

Kumudam Superstar..Thingy First there was online poll..all of sudden it was taken out...Again close to anouncing they opened up with Vijay leading....
Thanks letter to Kumudam for Next Superstar plus initially given Nod to grand Superstar function in Madurai to announce it,last minute cancelled due to any Political trouble it may induce to Kathi.But acting Innocent as Rajini is always Superstar and not interested in taking that title in Vijay award dont you see any thing contradictory.So These are all Front door entry okay
Yes VijayTVs,Kumudam write up does create Perception to the People.

Rentrak, Glint Cinemas, Box Office Moyo and all sources that provide authentic data place Vijay’s movies on top of the Box Office table. We don’t have such luxuries here in India; all we have here is Behindwoods and Sreedhar Pillai. Even their numbers showcase Vijay to be on top. It is not illogical to think that Vijay’s market in the overseas market (reliable numbers) could very well be replicated here in the domestic market. Why not?

Infact, some of Vijay’s duds like Sura and Thalaivaa have collected more money overseas that more fancied hits of competitors. Its there black and white, for everyone to see. You may think, why this obsession with overseas data, because that’s the only authentic numbers we have.

Sadly Overseas contribution is less and generalising based on this would end nowhere.So Sura bigger hit than Nanban.Ok agreed.Now its growing bigger and bigger with each film

Yes this the Broad generalisaion,I am speaking out....StarCraze and Film box office collection are two different things.Many factors favour a films collection such as Promotion,Media Interviews,Channel etc ofcourse Vijay is Big draw in Boxoffice but Ajith alone has done many times without Publicity,Nil successmeets,With Sumaar Directors.
So its natural to put Ajith ahead of Vijay.Both cater to Masses successfully but on two different way.
AJith has taken the most hardest path an star can take in evry case be director selection,no promotion ,not having Fake success meets,No Baby albert shield for flop films and yet he gives the best opening.
Its clear Black and white not a Grey layer given via Baby albert,150 functions etc.

He is the most searched actor in Google for the last decade, Forbes consistently rate him higher.

Do you really think, we have no reasons whatsoever to think Vijay is a top draw?

Now, tell me what makes you think Vijay has to resort to backdoor activities to prove himself, when his fans and his numbers speak for themselves?

Sameway I can cite Thousand examples After Rajinikanth,Reference to Ajith in other films in recent times to get crowd applause are too many.compared to his contempories.

Forbes its the income of all Brand a star in endorsing plus film remunerations...Surya has come sometime ahead that doesnt mean hes a Bigger star than Ajith & Vijay.
Trully Numbers when comes to Vijay is nothing less than multiples of 100C

Regarding Alcohol, Head Tonsure and Sabarimala, these things were not picked from any MEMES from outside, these informations were posted right here in hub, not by any one of us. You may be wondering why I am bothered about it, right?

Ok, please take time to read this?

Parthy, when someone relentlessly posts or talks about Vijay abusing his servant, Vijay winning Superstar Poll though ‘backdoor’ and then resorts to using words like ‘Naai’ and more.

Then when the same person posts about how a modern day saint tonsured his head for Sivaji, has Sabarimala in his sights often these days and drinking alcohol apparently is his only Achilles heel, how do you think, we are expected to react?

I am not bothered about Head Tonsure as long as there are no fake posts from oneindia about Vijay’s misbehaviour with his servants.
When you are trying to bring down someone, be prepared to be bitten back hard.

Don’t you think there are serious exaggerations at both ends of the spectrum here? The whole Ajith is a saint and hence Vijay is a cheap agenda.

As long as your agenda is just to market Ajith as a modern day mahatma, it doesn’t bother any of us here. The moment you talk about Vijay, we are in, automatically.

How does Ajith being good make Vijay bad?

How does Ajith gifting iPhone to his servant translate to Vijay ill-treating his servant?

Why does every positive action of Ajith bring about an equal and opposite action from Vijay? Newton’s law huh?

Why should Vijay resort to backdoor when his BO records and his fan following are there for everyone to see?
Nobody is saying Ajith doesn’t boast of both, but when Vijay’s proven records are put to question, what do you expect us to do?

We will comeback hard.

Most dont endorse OneIndia here and People are taking it as excuse to put a blame on Ajith fans even after knowing it.
To be Bruttaly honest I am fan of Arrogant Ajith for his Firebrand attitude irrespective of what public think
Having said that the Offscreen Aura AJith has now totally taken him to new level...So a film right film with such directors would kill that Benefit of Doubt some are enjoying

Amount of Provocations by Vijay fans here > by Ajith fans here.So no point in Blaming.Lewd comments are made on both sides..


No one said Ajith is Mahatma..Sometimes sorry almost most of time media exagerrates One Bad you do You are torn and good thing media will write several notch higher.So I am not Bothered about Exegarrations and Agreed its on both sides.
Earlier in 2003-2006 Ajith was put in Bad light for his Outspoken so called Arrogant speech and It was exegerrated.That time even now His Box Office is underestimated.Blockbusters will become Superhits,Superhits will become Hits, And Hits will become Avg.Finalyy Avg as Flops for Ajith.

So Negative Exagerrations done during those days for Ajith woulld easily beat current ones with addition of Social media.

You are right here. That was one killer tweet from Radhika which help us counter many cruel manipulations and exaggerations. It is like the Mystery Ball which we try to use to once in a while to get the batsman hopping around.

Still I am wondering how right it is to compare 60 Crore 2 week Domestic Run to a 45, al right 53 crore worldwide life time run. Thuppakki, the movie run very well for 7-8 weeks. According to Behindwoods, Thuppakki's numbers increased from 9.4 Crore at the end of week 2 to 13.4 Crore by the end of its run in Chennai. That's a good 50% increase from week 2.

53 is for TN.Radhika is not worldwide Distributer...Once you argued Since Radhika is TN distributer She may be correct in TN net.Now changing it to Worldwide..This called Manipulation...How Cruel and still we blame others .
Thupaki all india net so TN alone 55C gross it will be after two weeks excluding kerala,Karnataka,Restof India...Yes This is Fair comparision because here most BO are discussed based on Pillai tweets.So Why such hullabaloo for 2C difference in TN afterall ARMUragadoss is next only to Shankar??? Eventhough its after 18 days of run which contributes 90%
Behind wood provides a gross estimate and make adjustment then and there. .50% increase after 2 weeks based on that is Medical miracle,may be a good assumption.
Its like saying OKOK next to Endiran with 16C,BroadGeneralisation.

As far as Box Office records are concerned, manipulations have never been necessary for Vijay. You say now, we can have a good healthy debate on BO collections right from scratch?

What do you want to start with?

King of Opening?

King of Overall collections?

King of Overseas Collections?

Any topic of your choice and we can begin rightaway

Questioning me now reminds me of Raguvan hitting back at Arjun to become oneday CM

ARMurugadoss is next only to Shankar for his Market among Directors,So without such Directors Ajith has given such opening

Just to quote Thupaki was 9.25 according to Pillai,Billa2 was 7.61C after 30 tax So Gross would be 10.9C,So Kati has beaten Billa2 opening day would be fair milestone.

The Opening a Star gives irrespective of Director,Form,Promotions,external factor like Upperhand Distributer etc almost in every film decide a Star Potentioal.Overall collection depends on various factors lke Promos,Media coverage,WordofMouth,Review etc.
So its natural to put him ahead of Vijay.
So Debating based on Overseas numbers doesnt make sense Average film in domestic makes huge there due to various factors like Promotions,Release date etc.
Agreed UK & Kerala Vijay have clear lead thats it.Thats all.
Can baby albert 100days dragged run be accepted as Flops?
then We can have fair debate

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Parthyy

Vijay is now leading in USA too after Kaththi
Vijay,Surya leading in Sri Lanka
Vijay no 1 in Malaysia,Australia,Karnataka after Kaththi

Ajith movies don't run after 3 days due to no family and kids fans!

It is sad Ajith is not upto mark but what can we do?

[faithiu11]

Two blockbusters of ajith ...billa and mankatha...for one he comes in almost all TV channels for interview and for another suntv did great promotions... VP and vishnuvarthan are good directors in tamilcinema....ksr was next to Shankar during villain and god father days....arm came after 7 am arivu debacle...even kaththi was supposed to be done by ajith...c now without any promotions kaththi surpassed thupakki...so its not a fair point...and I didn't get surprise of kumudham and vijay awards after withnessed vijay fans dominance in twitter India trend or polls by top sites...he just won it by long margin...so no surprise for kumudham or vijay awards since they selected through polls ....in this industry everyone needs marketing and publicity...I accept vijay doing publicity wantedly....ajith too doing publicity wantedly....no doubt in tat..so either side plus and minus there..at last its about how many good entertaining movies they gave,giving and will give...and how it fares at box office....fans need to accept the fact and involve in healthy discussion...discussions for dumbs lik jilla and veeram clearly shows it they want to pretend their stars rather than expecting them to do quality entertaining movies...

[uruzalari]

We do not have an official tracking in TN. But we have at overseas and there Vijay leads. Who are those people watching Vijay's movies at overseas? Are they a non - Tamil speaking population? They are people who migrated to those countries or are temporarily put up there. I fail to understand how someone will prefer Vijay over someone else only outside the boundaries of our nation. It is the only official proof or rather a sample size of what things are here actually but something we cannot prove unfortunately due to lack of authenticity over here.

Just ask few non Ajith/Vijay fans about the number of movies of these stars which they have watched in theatres over the last few years and you will get the answer.

[PARAMASHIVAN]

Here in UK, VJ is very popular against SL youth!

[faithiu11]

people claiming vijay have good market in overseas since he married srilankan Tamil girl is just ridiculous....wat about malaysia,gulf and Singapore...

[Parthyy]

Simple,How extent you can push down others based on some favourable criteria and generalising expect the same to be done like other side of coin...