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    OTOH, the word Hinduism was attributed to a collection of various belief systems prevalent on the other side of the Sindh river - dvaitam, advaitam,vedantam, jainism, buddhism (and its derivatives in china and elsewhere) came from a polytheistic culture constantly evolving.
    again the understanding here is completely wrong on hinduism. hinduism is a generic coined word and corrupted form by the westerners though it is true that it has been coined based on the people's tradition and culture and way of life living in the region of Sindhu river....but the way of life was very prevalent in most parts of india i.e. bharatham

    jainism and budhism are totally different from so called hinduism defined....

    hinduism might have different braches but it certainly is not polytheistic culture in general....but the ways of life of different communities in hinduism is clearly visible...
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    http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/...?homepage=true

    I, YA are releasing for pongal. UV expected to release in jan 26. it would be diff to get many theaters

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    Quote Originally Posted by leosimha View Post
    again the understanding here is completely wrong on hinduism. hinduism is a generic coined word and corrupted form by the westerners though it is true that it has been coined based on the people's tradition and culture and way of life living in the region of Sindhu river....but the way of life was very prevalent in most parts of india i.e. bharatham

    jainism and budhism are totally different from so called hinduism defined....

    hinduism might have different braches but it certainly is not polytheistic culture in general....but the ways of life of different communities in hinduism is clearly visible...



    you are only repeating what I said - in different words - I said Hinduism is a loose term given to a collection of various belief systems on the other side of the Sindh River.

    all these various 'isms' though they may have differences, have their core values - from a humanistic as well as a seeking perspective in contemplating the nature of reality and consciousness - that are shared.

    the very fact that 'hinduism' includes sanata dharma, as well as the various other systems and the 1000s of gods makes it very polytheistic in nature.

    OTOH, its is either one god Allah or nothing else - Islam, Yaeweh and his son Jesus or nothing else (Christianity). There are tons of verses from both traditions - particularly the former that openly admonish ppl who do not choose that path (kaafirs / infidels), while the latter is more subtle.

    Adherents of Islam follow different codes of politics mixed with their beliefs based on written doctrine:

    Dar al-Islam: Islamic cultures wherein Muslims represent the majority of the population and hence can influence the govt to be islamic;

    Dar al-Harb: referring to those countries where the Muslim law is not in force, in the matter of worship and the protection of the faithful and Dhimmis.

    Dar al-Hudna: The land of non-believers currently under a truce, which is a respite between wars. A truce is bought by tribute or agreement. If the harbis break the conditions for the truce, hostilities are resumed or after ten years, which ever comes first. Furthermore, only treaties that conform to Islamic prescriptions are valid; if these conditions are not fulfilled, the treaty is worthless.

    Dar al-'Ahd: refers to the Ottoman Empire's relationship with its Christian tributary states. Today, the term refers to those non-Muslim governments which have armistice or peace agreements with Muslim governments. The actual status of the non-Muslim country in question may vary from acknowledged equality to tributary states.

    Dar al-Dawa: refers to a region where the religion of Islam has recently been introduced. Since the population had not been exposed to Islam before, they may not fit into the traditional definition of dar al-Harb. On the other hand, as the region is not yet Muslim, it cannot be dar al-Islam either. The most frequent use of the term dar al-Dawa refers to Arabia before and during the life of Muhammad commonly referred as Jahiliyyah period, era of ignorance of divine guidance.

    there is another concept called "dhimmī" - referring to non-Muslim citizens of an Islamic state. 'dhimmis' are allowed right of residence in an islamic states - their rights are fully protected in their communities, but as citizens in the Islamic state, had certain restrictions; they were excused or excluded from specific duties assigned to Muslims, did not enjoy certain political rights reserved for Muslims, and were subject to payment of a special tax (jizyah), but were otherwise equal under the laws of property, contract and obligation.

    Under sharia law, dhimmi status was originally applied to Jews, Christians, and Sabians. This status later came to be applied to Zoroastrians, Mandaeans, Hindus and Buddhists. Eventually, the Hanafi, the largest school of Islamic legal thought, applied this term to all non-Muslims living in Islamic lands outside the sacred area surrounding Mecca, in modern-day Saudi Arabia.

    so Unmai Vilimbi, there you go !

    take all of the above "Dar-al" concepts and marry them with the sharia law and tons of barbaric practices such as stoning women to death for adultery, murdering women if they were not virgins on the night of their wedding, killing ppl for apostasy (leaving Islam) - all of which btw are accepted in many levels of Pakistani society which btw only happens to be Islamic - what you then get is the total no of countries in which a majority of the 1 billion plus muslim population live!

    why should it surprise anyone that educated men/women representing one form or the other of islam even today are willing to join the ISIS in creating a global caliphate ??

    for all those liberal intellectuals - viz Arundhati Roy and the other marxist idiots in India and elsewhere - the above should tell them how free and open those societies are ! the very fact that these morons can bad mouth a culture as open and welcoming as India represents, is testimony to our accepting nature!

    there is also a recent trend of - evangelical missionaries - doing every bit to hijack the idea of 'universal brotherhood' as if they have the intellectual property right over it - right from thirukkural (or even before) and after, there is literature that profoundly speaks of this idea in many ways - but if they accepted this, then they cannot pursue their goals of harvesting souls since they would then lose a big marketing leitmotif !

    idhukku mela, kalki avatharamthaan yesu, sanskrithhathulaye virgin birth pathhi slokam yezudhirukkaam, Jesus oru kaala kattathil kashmiril irundhaaraam ! there are many such jokes being floated around - yenna ippdi senjaa thaaney, mavusu yaerum
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    unmai vilimbi :

    here is another 'intellectual' from the US - a transplant from India btw !



    Dinesh d'Souza in his desperate attempt to embolden his chosen faith, liberally spouts venom on something else.

    I admit, he is factually correct in many of his points, but he gets ugly when he says "am ok that the portuguese inquisitors came to India".

    this rabid bigot conveniently ignores the fact that Westernization did NOT happen in the West because of his religion, but IN SPITE OF IT!

    the moron doesn't acknowledge the role of great thinkers / philosophers who were constantly in battle with the church to reform it.

    this gent is now serving time in a correctional facility after being found guilty of campaign funding fraud - also he was caught with his pants down screwing his mistress while still married to another - so much for the 'values of his faith' he so proudly represents.

    so bear this in mind - this guy represents the spectrum of evangelical missionaries and their likes with their not very noble intentions - the only way they can paint themselves white, is to paint other cultures black!

    PS: look up many of his debates with Christopher Hitchens, Michael Shermer, Sam Harris, Susan Jacoby, David Silverman et al - in almost all of these debates Dinesh makes it a point to how India was reformed by the missionaries and islam as well (paaaru paaaru pattanam paaaru) and in all of these debates, he gets royally screwed by his opponents.

    Also in one of his debates, during the question and answer session, someone from the audience asked "you are from India, a country in which Islam was spread by the sword, through several centuries - beginning with Muhammad bin Qasim whose acts were nothing short of a genocide - and yet, you conveniently choose to ignore such historical facts" - Dinesh was speechless - the man who questioned him is a professor in world history and it was a welcome slap on Dinesh's face!
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    anyways, most ppl dont go into their respective beliefs/faiths very deep - which is good in a way - that makes them almost agnostic and unaware of all the deeper darkness.

    its unfair to expect filmmakers to dwell this deep - they can at the most show how these beliefs impact ones actions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unmai Vilambi View Post
    http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/...?homepage=true

    I, YA are releasing for pongal. UV expected to release in jan 26. it would be diff to get many theaters
    Atleast one of those may flop. So theaters will be available.
    Best of luck - dear Tamil Film Industry ! ! !

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    http://www.thehindu.com/features/met...?homepage=true
    Uttama Villain

    Cast: Kamal Haasan, Pooja, K. Balachander

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    2015 could well be the year of Kamal Haasan, with atleast three of his films (Uttama Villain, Papanasam, Vishwaroopam-2) slated for release. The first one is likely to be Uttama Villain, a comedy-drama that will feature the Ulaganayagan and a host of other actors. The late legendary filmmaker K. Balachander will appear on the big screen for the last time in this movie.

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    Kaushik LM ‏@Lmkmoviemaniac 18m18 minutes ago
    #KamalHaasan is said to have found a financier from London to resume #MarudhaNayagam
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