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    ALL MRIDANGAM STUDENTS

    hi my name is Unni. i am a rising mridangam student. there is one aspect of the mridangam i just dont seem to understand...the math behind playing the mridangam. if there are 10 aksharams....such as in this lesson i learned

    Na Thin Thin Na
    NaKa Thin Thin Na
    Kitathaka Thin Thin Na
    Tha LanGu Thakathimi Nakathari Kitathaka

    Na Thin Thin Na
    Tha LanGu Thakathimi Nakathari Kitathaka
    NaKa Thin Thin Na
    Tha LanGu Thakathimi Nakathari Kitathaka

    Tha LanGu Thom Tha Tham
    Tha LanGu Thakathimi Nakathari Kitathaka
    Tha LanGu Thom Tha Tham
    Tha LanGu Thakathimi Nakathari Kitathaka

    my teacher says it's 3 1/2 + 3 1/2 + 3 1/2..........all i get from that is 10 1/2..what does that mean? where does he get 3 1/2 from and whats with the addition? can someone help me?
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    This is one of the initial lessons of Mirudamgam.

    The lesson can be set to
    8 atcharams - adithalam
    14 atcharams - misra chappu 3 1/2 x4 = 14 .... insert a Karvai (pause) - after the first syllable 'Na'
    10 atcharams - kandachappu 2 1/2 x 4 -10 .... play vilambam kalam - insert a karvai after the 3rd syllable!

    Hope you understand. Else ask your teacher!

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    Idiappam Sir
    Are you a mridangam player?

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    but what are you counting when u say 3 1/2..and how do you know that it works..can you tell me step by step what's supposed to go through your head when you're counting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by viggop
    Idiappam Sir
    Are you a mridangam player?
    Yes, not an expert tough!. It has been a long time since I went on stage accompanying!

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    Quote Originally Posted by unni
    but what are you counting when u say 3 1/2..and how do you know that it works..can you tell me step by step what's supposed to go through your head when you're counting?
    3 1/2 beats, I am counting - misra chappu thalam, they call that. I count - 1231234 1231234....

    That is said as
    tha kki da | tha kka thi mi...
    tha kki da | tha kka thi mi..... in mirudangam 'words'.

    While counting you hands should go - wave, clap clap.. wave, clap clap. The wave extends 1 1/2 beats, while the claps 1 beat each - making a total 3 1/2 beats.

    Well! What goes on through my head??? The lesson, of course ' Na Thin Thin Na NaKa Thin Thin Na'

    wave ......| clap ...clap
    tha kki da | tha kka thi mi
    tha kki da | tha kka thi mi
    Na.....Thin| Thin ...Na
    Naka...Thin| Thin ...Na


    Ha! Do you grasp anything???

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    i see. but the lesson i posted was taught as part of adi taalam.

    he said adi thaalam starts with

    na thin thin na
    naka thin thin na
    kitathaka thin thin na
    na thin thin na

    he said this has 8 aksharams so what would be the count for this?
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    after that lesson he taught adi thaalam with 10 aksharams that's the lesson i posted first in the forum
    ( the beginning which is just to lead into the koraippu)
    na thin thin na
    naka thin thin na
    kitathaka thin thin na
    tha lan gu thakathimi nakathari kitathaka

    then the koraippu and muthaippu...so if it's adi thaalam how can the count be 1231234? wouldnt it be 12345678 (or sometimes it's 12341234)
    how can you measure if it's half a beat or a quarter of a beat or etc?? sorry for the annoying questions..i'm just really not getting it....
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    Idiappam Sir
    Why did you leave the art in the middle?
    you are privileged to learn it and you have even accompanied artists in concerts as you say. Have u accompanied any famous carnatic musicians from TN?

    if you move to chennai, famous mridangam artists like Karaikudi Mani,Umayalapuram Sivaraman have schools where they teach advanced practitioners like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viggop
    Idiappam Sir
    Why did you leave the art in the middle?
    you are privileged to learn it and you have even accompanied artists in concerts as you say. Have u accompanied any famous carnatic musicians from TN?

    if you move to chennai, famous mridangam artists like Karaikudi Mani,Umayalapuram Sivaraman have schools where they teach advanced practitioners like you.
    I started with Vocal (my teacher was a Nadaswara Vidwan), then went on the mirudangam - attracted by the deep, thrilling but soothing sound it made. Spent two years learning that! I played only for Temple Othuvars here - everyday for some 7 years. That's my 'vow' - only Tamil music, though during my learning days I played for all!

    I can't continue, because of soldiering, studying, working and housemaking and , of course, hubbing - no time now for mirudangam. I still keep one mirudangam next to me - tuned to ondrarai kattai - ha! Bang on it before I bang the keyboard!

    More about me - please PM! Don't bore others with my story!

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    Hey i'm looking for another mridangam for purchase do you know where i can get one cheap in the U.S?
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