ALL MRIDANGAM STUDENTS

**Idiappam** · 15th July 2005, 03:21 PM

Unni wrote:

after that lesson he taught adi thaalam with 10 aksharams that's the lesson i posted first in the forum
( the beginning which is just to lead into the koraippu)
na thin thin na
naka thin thin na
kitathaka thin thin na
tha lan gu thakathimi nakathari kitathaka

Your teacher is right! This fits into athi Thallam - extends 2 atcharams extra - that is compensated earlier in the nadai (na thin thin na...) or in the Kuraippu and mudippu!

Lets count!
1.na thin 2.thin na
3.naka thin 4.thin na
5.kitathaka thin 6.thin na
7.tha lan gu 8.thakathimi 9.nakathari 10.kitathaka

try that!

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**Idiappam** · 15th July 2005, 03:31 PM

Where is Mr. Nick Mirudangam, the resident mirudangist of the Hub?. He should come here and help!

**viggop** · 15th July 2005, 04:46 PM

Great mridanga vidwan website

http://www.palghatmaniiyer.org/

**unni** · 16th July 2005, 08:10 AM

Hey i finally got it.....basically what you said earlier is what my teacher told me..he actually wrote out the math and i get it....i feel really stupid because i JUST NOW realized that we are counting the muthaippu. i was counting from the koraippu and was getting much higher math...haha...man now i really feel like a beginner..i just now realized how far i have left to go.but it really makes me want to learn more and more. thanks for all your help. here is what my teacher had to say:
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"""Unni,

That is a great question and you are on the right track. You got the overall picture correctly here. The only thing that you failed to account for is that, during the third turn, you don't play the 'tham', but instead continue with the next lesson from 'NaThinThinNa'. This is the extra 1/2 that you are not able to account for.

In general, the other lessons are structured as:
2 + 1 + 2 + 1 + 2 = 8

This lesson (and a couple of others that we will discuss in class) is actually
(2+1) + 1/2 + (2+1) + 1/2 + (2+1) = 10

Does that make sense?

Regards and see you in class tomorrow,
Suresh Uncle"""
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after reading his explanation i truly understood what you were trying to tell me. it helped a little better to see the breakdown like he wrote it. Man i love the mridangam so much more each time i learn something new... how long u been into the art?

**viggop** · 16th July 2005, 10:24 AM

Unni
Idiappam Sir has been giving concert level performances with the mirudangam for nearly 7 years!!!! you can use his knowledge along with your guru's teaching to get more insight into mirudangam.
I think the world famous mridangist,Trichy Sankaran is loacted in Canada.You can join him once you become a advanced player of mirudangam.

**unni** · 17th July 2005, 08:50 AM

man 7 years...that's so encouraging. as for me becoming an advanced mridangist....i've only got 4 months so far but i'm getting there..one thing for sure tho...i'm really into it..and interested in learing more and more. i love talking, playing and reading or whatever it is about the mridangam.. i have my lessons playing in my head 24/7..haha...people like you that are so supportive and encouraging of the arts are the reason great talents and intrests are allowed to grow. i had my class today and what you guys told me really helped me in class. each time he said "shabhash" when i completed a muthaippu..i thought of what i would do if i hadnt understood the count and why i play what when... i think i'll return here often now because the lessons get harder and harder and i'll need more and more out of class help..haha...hope i can count on you guys.

**Idiappam** · 18th July 2005, 11:12 AM

Ok! Lets take a count on Athi thalam:

1.Na Thin 2.Thin Na
3.NaKa Thin 4.Thin Na
5.Kitathaka Thin 6.Thin Na
7.Tha LanGu Thakathimi 8.Nakathari Kitathaka

1.Na Thin 2.Thin Na
3.Tha LanGu Thakathimi 4.Nakathari Kitathaka
5.NaKa Thin 6.Thin Na
7.Tha LanGu Thakathimi 8.Nakathari Kitathaka

Mudippu (muthaippu)
1.Tha LanGu Thom Tha 2.Tham
Tha LanGu 3.Thakathimi Nakathari 4.Kitathaka
Tha LanGu 5.Thom Tha Tham
6.Tha LanGu Thakathimi 7.Nakathari Kitathaka
8.Tha LanGu Thom Tha 1.Tham <-------- you don't play this last 'tham', but go on to 'Na Thin ......'

That should be it! What do you say Mr Unni!

**viggop** · 18th July 2005, 01:09 PM

I spoke to a mridangist(amateur) yesterday.
He was saying things like Lagu(?)
,thirtham(clap),anuthirtham etc.(clap and wave) and each of these units of measurem,ents have subdivisions. etc.

and a whole lot of thing.
He said there are 7 types of talams etc.
as usual,i understood a little

**viggop** · 18th July 2005, 01:11 PM

he said to a right handed mridangam player, left side is called "thoppi" and right side is called "sadham".

I have heard "Dimiki kudukarathu" in Tamil for cheating but he introduced me to "Gumiki kudukarathu"(bass sound?)

**unni** · 19th July 2005, 02:48 AM

whoa..thank you...the numbers before each beat really helps..yeah i'm more used to drutham, laghu and anudrutham....that last post with the lessons reallly helped...is this a 8 aksharam lesson or 10 askaharam lesson? i think it's 8...

na thin thin na
tha lan thakitathaka naka tharikitathaka
naka thin thin na
tha lan thakitathaka naka tharikitathaka

tha lan thakitathaka naka tharikitathaka
tha langu thom
tha lan thakitathaka naka tharikitathaka
thalangu thom
tha lan thakitathaka naka tharikitathaka

we play the bolded part because it's 8 aksharams right? like on the 10 aksharam lesson where u saidnot to play the tham???