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Thread: Which actor got benefited maximum out of IR

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Balaji
    NJV,

    I genuinely feel that RK has some stuff. To compare, he is better than RR . RR is full of lipstick , colour shirts and rose powder only and above all IR influence.
    now we are talking. If you compare RK vs RR, then RK is definitely better. RR is exactly what you said.

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    We have not considered Sivakumar much as subsequently he proved to be a seasoned actor but the fact was that IR was instrumental in bringing back Sivakumar to limelight in the late 70s through his great music.

    The late 70s were synonimous with the rise of IR and also rejuvenation of Sivakumar. But for IR, even SIvakumar would have disappeared.

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    Ramarajan's First film was a success for him which dont had the influence of IR. It was the film Karagatakaran which made a big hpye and linked RR with IR and from that onwards RR soley depended on IR's Music.
    So it is fare to say that RR is one the actor who soley depended on IR music for his success ( i would add Kaundamani and senthil's Comedy also a factor along with IR music for the sucess of RR)

    Mohan's case is one to one related where he relied on IR's song and also Ir's song relied on mohan's wonderful expression to make that song a hit.So in that case it is one to one and so +50 and -50 would make it nill.There are lot of films where the songs were super hit but the film flopped due to film and story.Eg Neethana andha kuyil of Barathyraja, Karuthamma , Mey Madham , sangamam etc etc.So just good music alone cant be a factor for the success of hero.

    Sivakumar is a natural artist and gifted at that and was a product even before IR came to film industry and so i feel Ir's song was a influence for his success but not soley the music.

    Murali is also a canditate where most of his successful films are helped by powerful music of IR. Eg Idhayam, pagal nilavu, where without the Music i doubt those films would have been as successful as they were and also Murali dont have a natural charisma which people like Rajani or kamal had.

    looking forward to more comments

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    Hello Vimal Percy,

    Nice analysis but :

    1. Ramarajan's first movie was engu ooru paatukaran , i think which was a hit due to IR only
    2. Sivakumar was virtually out in the late 70s and it was IR who brought him to the front through his dominating music
    3. Mohan - Ok 50 % as he was good at reacting well to songs

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    I would vote for Ramarajan (1) and Mohan (2). But inspite of the loud trademarks of Ramarajan (garish colour shirts, lipstick, make-up and the likes), his movies were very decent (probably barring a few scenes). And yes, IR's music was a huge catalyst factor for his success. Infact I used to search for "Ramarajan Hits" in audio stores for the wonderful scores by IR in Ramarajan movies.

    I don't think Sivakumar can be included in this list. Though his songs would've been hits, you cannot attribute the songs to Sivakumar (as we normally trademark a typical "Mohan song" or "Ramarajan song"). Moreover, Sivakumar is definitely a fine actor, whereas in case of Mohan & Ramarajan, their presence in a movie never played a significant role (in terms of looks, acting skills or charisma) for the movie's success. As Vimalpercy rightly quoted, it is the other criteria like story line, comedy, rurual setup and largely IR's music which contributed to the movie's success.

    [This is offtrack - though Ramarajan was really popular around late 80s, I have hardly come across any interview of his in a magazine or on TV till date - any reasons?]

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    Dear Ravi,

    Agreed Sivakumar is a fine actor but the fact was that by the mid 70s he was virtually out of the scene and it was movies like the following which brought him back and they are all known for IR only and not Sk :

    1. Annakili
    2. Kavikuyil
    3. Badrakali
    4. Chittikurivi
    5. Rosapoo ravikkaikari
    6. Aanandha ragam
    7. Naan paadum paadal
    8. Poondhalir

    etc etc. All the said movies are famous only for songs and not for Sks acting.

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    Nice analysis but :

    1. Ramarajan's first movie was engu ooru paatukaran , i think which was a hit due to IR only
    I doubt that, i guess his first film was nama ooru nalla ooru where he is the director of the film and actor.

    Let me know if i am correct or wrong

    [This is offtrack - though Ramarajan was really popular around late 80s, I have hardly come across any interview of his in a magazine or on TV till date - any reasons?]

    At the period, he was popular i guess for one single year, where he acted in like 12 or 13 films which was termed as record no of films for an actor in one year. So having acted in such no of films, i doubt he had time for interview in magazine etc.
    But he was a popular gosip maker with names like Pasunesan , madunadikar etc etc, and one article came about him where it quoted that when they were shooting a film for him, some forigners were looking at the shooting and when they were told he is the hero, they just laughed and told that they thought he is a comedian.And other than that any magazine or Tv Channel would risk their pages or hours intervieing him??


    with regards
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    Vimal,

    For all his limitations, RR looked a bit lookable compared to other current heros. Sans his colour dressing.

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    nearly everyone in 80's period.
    but the order is
    1)mohan
    2)ramarajan
    3)sivakumar
    4)kamal and rajni(apart from ilayaraja their movies ran for their talent too)
    5)and all others like prabhu and karthik

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    Quote Originally Posted by nilavupriyan
    nearly everyone in 80's period.
    but the order is
    1)mohan
    2)ramarajan
    3)sivakumar
    4)kamal and rajni(apart from ilayaraja their movies ran for their talent too)
    5)and all others like prabhu and karthik
    Add Murali and

    Thyagarajan to this elite list !!

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