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    iyappan (@ yaho*) on: Tue Jan 20 07:51:55 EST 2004




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    "ÁÄ÷óÐõ ÁÄá¾ À¡¾¢ ÁÄ÷ §À¡Ä "

    þ¨½Â¡¸ À¡¼ø ´ýÚ ¦º¡øÖí¸û. À¡÷ì¸Ä¡õ.

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    suresh (@ 61.2*) on: Tue Jan 20 07:54:06 EST 2004






    PP

    if one think one can transform a person by his / her thoughts, i am sorry to say, he/she would surely fail.

    personalities may get influenced but not transformed.
    even Mahatma Gandhi could not transform people, he could only influence them. ( eg. no ahimsa nowadays ).

    similarly, cinema can influence people, but it can never transform them.

    we dont have to worry about influences. if not cinema, there would be something else to influence and that is all.

    the person who gets influenced today by cinema, will get influenced by something else tomorrow. you cant stop them.

    there are lotteries. if you get influenced by lotteries you buy them, if not, you are not going to buy. similarly cinema.

    but you can take cinema for granted for fun and pure fun. the front bench whistlers are the people who really needs some fun after their hectic day, and they form the majority. not you and me .

    there are films for you and me. we shall watch that.
    the front bench whistlers have their movie to watch and whistle.

    all we can try to do is, help them to transform to our place... that too we can try, and that is very much being done by people like, manirathnam, shankar, kamalhasan, nazar, sujatha, vairamuthu, ilayaraja, a.r. rahman, etc. we have to appreciate them. we should be happy that except for kamalahasan and nazar, all the others have succeed in that to some extent.

    the problem is we never encourage good things but only view the worse things with a lense on our eyes.

    what a lovely message is there in the movie BOYS, and did we talk about that. we didnt talk about the technical richness in the movie. we didnt talk about the excellent acting which was performed the debut actors. we always talked about the "vidalaithanam" which was exaggarated in the movie and that is how we view a thing.

    anyway, as far as i am concern, there is no good movie or bad movie, there are only movies, which we like and which we dont...





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    Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.*) on: Tue Jan 20 10:03:45 EST 20




    Suresh, you are welcome to your views!





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    suresh (@ 61.2*) on: Wed Jan 21 01:16:00 EST 2004






    Iyappan,

    //¯í¸û ¸Õò¾¢É¢ÕóÐ Á¡ÚÀΞüÌ ÁýÉ¢ì¸×õ//

    en karuthilirunthu maarupada en mannippu thaevaiyae illai.

    // ¾¢¨Ãô À¼ò¨¾ ÀüȢ ¸ƒý ¬¾í¸ò¾¢ø ¯ñ¨Á þÕì¸î¦ºö¸¢ÈÐ.//

    aathangangal mattum ethaiyumae maatri vidaathu enbathu en karuthu.

    //¸ñ½¾¡ºý À¡¼ø¸û ±ùÅÇ× «Æ¸¡É ¬ÆÁ¡É ¸Õòи¨Ç ¦¸¡ñ¼ À¡¼ø¸û ±ýÚ ¯í¸ÙìÌ ¦º¡øÄ §¾¨Å¢ø¨Ä. //

    maRukkavae mudiyaatha uNmai. antha karuthukkalaal ennenna maatrangal nigazhnthu vittathu enru sonneergal aanaal migavum magizhvaen. maRubadiyum aathangangalthaan minjugirathu.

    //¾¢¨Ãô À¼í¸û Áì¸Ç¢¼õ «¾¢¸ ¾¡ì¸ò¨¾ ²üÀÎò¾¢Â¢Õ츢ÈÐ. //

    bayappadavae vaendiyathillai. inru thiraipadam. piragu TV. piragu internet. piragu... thaakam aerpaduthum vazhimuraithaan maRik kondae irukkumae thavira, theernthu pOgaathu. enakku theriyum ithai jeeranam seiyya mudiyaathuthaan. enna seiyya mudiyum ?


    // ¾¢Â¡¸Ã¡ƒ À¡¸Å¾Ã¢ý ´Õ À¼õ ( ¦ÀÂ÷ ÁÈóÐ §À¡ÉÐ... ) À¡÷òÐ ÀħÀ÷ ÐÈŢ¡¸ô §À¡¸ ÓʦÅÎòÐ «¨Ä󾾡¸ ÌÈ¢ôÒ. //

    mudivu seithaargal sari... ethanai paer maarinaargal ?

    //"ÁÄ÷óÐõ ÁÄá¾ À¡¾¢ ÁÄ÷ §À¡Ä "

    þ¨½Â¡¸ À¡¼ø ´ýÚ ¦º¡øÖí¸û. À¡÷ì¸Ä¡õ. //

    karka kasadara karpavai katrapin
    nirka atharku thaga....

    - itharku iNayaaga kannathaasan ezhuthiyullaaraa enna?

    kannathaasan pOl ezhutha kannathaasanaal mattumthaan mudiyum. maelum, kannathaasanaal, kannathaasan pOl mattumthaan ezhutha mudiyum. correct ?

    //þ¾¢ø ¾¡ý ÅÕ¸¢ÈÐ ÁÂì¸Á¡ ¸Äì¸Á¡ §À¡ýÈ À¡¼ø¸Ùõ... ÁýÁ¾Ã¡º¡ §À¡ýÈ À¡¼ø¸Ùõ. //

    mayakkama kalakkama nanraaga irunthathaal, inruvarai athai ninaivu vaithu irukkireergal... aanaal manmatha raasa, adutha varudam irukkuma enna ? search me...

    kannukku mai azhagu
    poongaatrilae un swaasathai
    kannathil muthamittaal
    oru mani adithaal kannae
    vennilavae vennilavae
    anbenra mazhaiyilae agilangal nanaiyavae

    - pOnra pala pala paadalgalum vanthu konduthaan irukkirathu enbathaiyum kavanikkavum. ithil pala paadalgal naangu ainthu varudangalukku mun vanthathu. athae periodil pala MANMATHA RAASAAKKALUM vanthullana. aethaavathu ninaivu unda ungalukku ?

    IYAPPAN / PP

    thayavu seithu naan thirai padangalukku vakkaalathu vaangugiraen, ivan thirai pada thuRaiyil iruppaan enru ninaithu vidaatheergal.

    manithanudai mana maatrangal, it is within. external things supports it and that it is all. - enbathu en karuthu. athaithaan solla vanthaen.

    manitha manam oru kaLimaN enru sonnaal, antha kaLimaNNai ethal adikkirOmo antha vadivam mattumae athil padiyum. kallaal adithaal kall aLavu, kattaiyaal adithaal kattai aLavu...

    aanmeegam, thaesa patru, puraanam, kalai, ellaamae manithan manathil ulla avanathu sontha ennangalai kondu eppadi paarkiraano appadi avanai senru adaigirathu. namathu kavignarae solli irukkiraar :

    theivam enraal athu theivam
    silai enraal athu silaithaan

    ithu, uNmaiyilae oru pazhaiya thamizh pazhamozhi.

    kallai kaNda naayai kaanOm, naayai kaNda kallai kaanOm.
    nichayam ithan porul ungalukku vilangi irukkum enru ninaikkiraen. ennaiyum....


















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    Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.*) on: Wed Jan 21 04:39:55 EST 20




    «÷ò¾ÓûÇ ÀƦÁ¡Æ¢Ô¼ý ÓÊòÐûÇ£÷¸û. ¸ýÈ¡Å¢ À¡ðÎì¸û ¸¡½¡Áø §À¡öÅ¢Îõ ±ýÀ¾¢ø ³ÂÁ¢ø¨Ä. ¬É¡ø À¢ÃÀÄÁ¡ö þÕìÌõ ÌÚ¸¢Â ¸¡Äò¾¢Öõ ±í¦¸íÌ ¦ºýÈ¡Öõ º¢Ä ŢúÁ¡É À¡¼ø¸¨Ç ¸¡¨Ä ±Øó¾Ð Ó¾ø §¸ð¸ §¿Ã¢Îõ §À¡Ð ¸¡ÐìÌ ¿¡Ã¡ºÁ¡ö þÕ츢ÈÐ. ±Ã¢îºø ÅÕ¸¢ÈÐ.Å£ðÊø ÊÅ¢¨Â, §Ãʧ¡¨Å «¨½òÐÅ¢¼Ä¡õ. ¦À¡Ð þ¼í¸Ç¢ø, §ÀÕóиǢø ¸¡¨¾ ¸¢Æ¢ìÌõ «º¢í¸ À¡¼ø¸¨Ç §¸ðÌõ §À¡Ð þРѸ÷§Å¡÷ ŢƢôÒ½÷ À¡¾¢ôÀ¡¸ §¸¡ÀÁ¡¸ ÅÕ¸¢ÈÐ. ¦¾¡¨Ä§Àº¢ À¡¼ø Å¢ÕôÀ ¿¢¸ú¢ø ´Õ ÌÆó¨¾ "Á¡ý ÌðʧÂ" À¡ðÎ §¸ð¸¢ÈÐ, «ó¾ ÌÆó¨¾ìÌ ¦¾Ã¢Â¡Ð «ó¾ À¡¼ø ÃŢ쨸¢ý øº¢Âõ º¢Ä¡¸¢ìÌõ À¡¼ø ±ýÚ.("§º¡Ç¢ì¦¸ À£î§º" ±ýÚ †¢ó¾¢Â¢ø ¬ÃõÀ¢òÐ ¨Åì¸ ¦Ã¡õÀ º¢Ãò¨¾Â¡¸ «Ê¦Â¡üÈ¢ þí§¸ ¿¼ì¸¢È¡÷¸û.)¬É¡ø «÷ò¾Á¢øÄ¡Áø ´Õ ¨¸Â¡Ä¡¸¡¾ §¸¡Àõ ÅÕ¸¢È§¾.º¢ýÉ ¸¡Ð¸ÙìÌ §¸ð¸ þ¨¾ Å¢¼ ¿øÄ ºò¾ò¨¾ ¿¡õ ¾Ã ÓÊ¡¾¡ ±ýÚ.Òò¾¸ò¨¾ ±ÎòÐ ¦¸¡ñÎ ÀûÇ¢ìÌ ¸øæâìÌ §À¡§É¡Á¡, ÀÊòÐ Óý§ÉÚõ, À¢¨ÆìÌõ ÅÆ¢¨Â À¡÷ò§¾¡Á¡ ±ýÚ þÕì¸ §Åñʠž¢ÉÕìÌ ÅÆ¢ ¦¿Î¸ þùÅÇ× ¸ÅÉ¾Èø¸û §¾¨Å¡? §Â¡ì¸¢ÂÁ¡¸ þÕì¸ìÜÊ À¢û¨Ç¸û ܼ Üð¼ò¾¢ø ÅÃõÒ Á£È¢ô À¡÷ì¸ ºÀÄôÀ¼Å¢¼Ä¡Á¡?Å¢¼¨Ä¸Ç¢ý Áɾ¢ø Å¢¸øÀò¨¾ Å¢¨¾òÐ ¬ñ ¦Àñ ¬§Ã¡ì¸¢ÂÁ¡É ¯È¨Å§Â ¦¸Îì¸Ä¡Á¡? ¦¾ÕÅ¢ø þÈí¸¢É¡§Ä À¡Ð¸¡ôÀ¢ýÈ¢ ¦Àñ¸û ¯½Ãġ.ÅÂÐ ÅÃõÀ¢ýÈ¢ ºò¾Á¡¸ «¿¡¸Ã¢¸Á¡¸ Á¡÷ì §À¡Îõ ¸Ä¡îº¡Ãò¨¾ À¡÷òÐ ââòÐô §À¡¸ þÂÄÅ¢ø¨Ä. ÁýÉ¢òÐ즸¡ûÙí¸û.ÍõÁ¡ ¨¸¸ðÊ À¡÷òÐì ¦¸¡ñÊÕì¸×õ ÓÊÂÅ¢ø¨Ä.





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    suresh (@ 61.2*) on: Wed Jan 21 09:21:55 EST 2004






    PP

    neengaLum kandippaaga aethaavathu oru kallooriyil padithu iruppeergaL. athu co-ed kallooriyaaga irunthirunthaal, neengaLum antha galaataa kkalai ellam arugil irunthu kavanithu iruppeergaL. aen anubava pattaekooda irukkalaam...

    urimaiyOdu naan onru kaetkiraen.

    ungaLOdu kallooriyil padikkum pOthu pengaLai migavum migavum athigamaaga kaeli seitha oru saga maaNavan ninaivu ungaLukku irukkirathaa? appadi irunthaal, ippOthu avar enna seithu koNdu irukkiraar enru thaedi pidikka mudinthaal, ippOthum avar antha kalaattaakaLai thodarnthu seithu koNdu irukkiraara enru paarungal. "aam" enru neengaL sonnaal naan ungaLidam en madathanamaana tharkathirkku mannippu kOrugiraen.

    athellaam vayasila varrathunga... ungaL kaalathil antha viLayaattu ungaL veetu periyavargalukku pidikkaamal pOnathu pOl, intha kaalathu viLayaatu ungalaivida vayathil siriyavargaLukku nadakkumpOthu ungalukku pathaRugiRathu.

    ungaL kaalathil eppadi ungaL saga maaNavargalin vidalaithanangaLai neengaL, ungaL periyavargalukku pidikkaamal pOnaalum, rasitheergalO ( ungal enru ungalai kuRippidavillai. antha vayathu othavargal ) athae pOlthaan ithuvum.

    vidunga... ovvoru iLaignanum kaattu maram pOl vaLara vaendum. veettu maramaaga vaLarakoodaathu... electricity boardil irunthu vanthavan konjam vettuvaan. telephone departmentil konjam vettuvaargal. cable TV aaL konjam vettuvaan. kadaisiyil kiLaigaL mattumae minjum. thulirkavum seiyaathu. kaaikavum seiyaathu.

    cheer up ...








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    Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.*) on: Wed Jan 21 10:54:42 EST 20




    It is best to repeat what I said before: you are welcome to your views!





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    suresh (@ 61.2*) on: Thu Jan 22 00:48:14 EST 2004






    thanks and i remain.







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    iyappan (@ yaho*) on: Thu Jan 29 13:27:07 EST 2004




    hi suresh

    there is a saying in english
    "every argument has two side ... but no end. "

    lets make this saying wrong and end this argument )

    -regards
    iyappan





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    iyappan (@ yaho*) on: Thu Jan 29 13:37:11 EST 2004




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