Learning Tamil, My experiences: continued

[skanthan]

Lesson 25: the infinitive

Regular verbs
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English word - root - infinitive

do - sey - seyya
cry - azhu - azha
person - aaL - aaLa
throw - eRi - eRiya
sit - utkaar - utkaara
enter - nuzhai - nuzhaiya
buy - vaangu - vaanga
touch - thodu - thoda
eat - saappidu - saapida
see - paar - paarkka
see - kaaN - kaaNNa
open - thiRa - thiRakka

Irregular verbs
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go - pO - pOga
come - vaa - vara
give - thaa - thara
ask - kEL - kEtka
stand - nil - niRka
sell - vil - viRka

sit - amar - amara
(to) rain - pey - peyya
(to) help - udhavu - udhava
??? - thin - thinna
find - kanduppidi - kanduppidikka
put - pOdu - pOda

[skanthan]

Lesson 27 - the negative command -aadhE
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English word - Root - negative command - respective negative

do - sey- seyyaadhE - seyyaadheergaL
throw - eRi - eRiyaadhE - eRiyadheergaL
buy - vaangu - vaangaadhE - vaangaadheergaL
touch - thodu - thodaadhE - thodaadheergaL
eat - saappidu - sappidaadhE - sappidaadheergaL
see - paar - paarkkaadhE - paarkkadheergaL
open - thiRa - thiRakkadhE - thiRakkaadheergaL

to be continued...

[skanthan]

In many Tamil books, magazines and newspapers, I have noticed the occurence of the following letters from Sanskrit: ja, occasionally sha(as in shivaa or gaNEsha), sha(as in vishNu or kirushNa), sa , ha, occasionally ksha(a combination of d+cha is used to write this sound) and sri. Is this a remanant of the old convention of using the Grantha alphabet to write Sanskrit words in Tamil? I heard somewhwere else on the forum that this convention was once used expecially in subjects the required the use of alot of Sanskrit words. Unfortunately, there are no examples of this old convention anywhere on Internet. I hope someone can shed more light on how these letters managed to be retained in modern Tamil usage.

[rajraj]

skanthan:

aaL also means rule/govern; aaLa = to rule/govern

eat = thin,saappidu

however = irundhaalum ,aanaalum,irundhapodhilum

[skanthan]

Okay raajraj,

I got it. About my queries on the Grantha letters. Can anyone give me an explanation in regards to this? mikka nanRi!

[skanthan]

A kind request.

To help me with my Tamil learning, it would be so nice if hubbers can post some sentences in English for me to translate into Tamil and correct me when I make mistakes or when I am unsure and it would be nice to quiz me once in a while. nanRi!

aiyO saami! I should of asked those who posted on my old Tamil learning thread to make copies of my posts there so then sometimes in future they can give me reviews!

[skanthan]

Sentences: negative and respective negative command.

Don't watch, television, read the bbok!

tholaikkaatchiyai paarkkaadhE, putthagatthai padi!
tholaikkaatchiyai paarkkadheergaL, putthagatthai padiyungaL!

Don't bite the candy, suck it!

mittaayai kadikkaadhE, sappu!
mittaayai kadikkaadheergaL, sappungaL!

Don't buy the doll, buy the shirt!

sattaiyai vaangaadhE, pOmmaiyai vaangu!
sattaiyai vaangaadheergaL, pOmmaiyai vaangungaL!

Don't throw thw ball here!

pandhaiyai eRiyaadhE!
pandhaiyai eRiyaadheergaL!

[skanthan]

I think that along side of me, other people are learning Tamil thru this thread...

vaazhga thamizh, vaaLarga thamizh!

[skanthan]

Please tell me how to say these past tenses in thamizh.

I did
You did
He did
She did
He/she did (respective)
They did

I said
You said
He said
She said
He/she said (respective)
they said

[rajraj]

Please tell me how to say these past tenses in thamizh.

I did ............................................naan seydhEn
You did..........................................nee seydhaay
He did ..........................................avan seydhaan
She did.........................................avaL seydhaaL
He/she did (respective)................avar(gaL) seydhaar(gaL)
They did........................................avargaL seydhaargaL

I said............................................na an sonnEn
You said........................................nee sonnaay/neengaL sonneergaL
He said.........................................avan sonnaan
She said.......................................avaL sonnaaL
He/she said (respective)..............avar(gaL) sonnaar(gaL)
they said......................................avargaL sonnaargaL

Hope this helps skanthan !