Old Hindi Film Music

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one of Gulzarsaab's best (alngwith panchamda, of course) is "phir wohi raat hai" from ghar. really haunting number.

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one of Gulzarsaab's best (alongwith panchamda, of course) is "phir wohi raat hai" from ghar. really haunting number.

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Raj: Ah! That song from kinaaraa is a real evergreen!

If you consider the situation in the movie, Dharam has died in a car accident and Hema is reminded of the song he sung when she goes back to the ruins of the fort where they met. Now Jeetendra (is it Jeetendra or is it Farooq Sheik???) meets Hema in the same ruins and learns this song from her and sings with her. He is different, the name is different and the face is different but the voice (the inner voice, the thoughts, ideas, etc.) is the same. But she fails to recognise this in the begining.

Probably this is what is meant by
naam gum jaayEgaa
chaharaa yeh badal jaayEgaa
mEri aawaaz hI pehchaan hai
gar yaad rahE

waqt kE sitam kam hasIn nahin
aaj hain yahaan kal kahin nahin
waqt sE parE agar mil gayE kahin
mEri aawaaz hI pehchaan hai
gar yaad rahE

The mischeifs of Time do not lack in beauty
One is here today and nowhere tomorrow
But inspite of Time, if we manage to meet somewhere,
My voice is the factor of recognition
If you remember it...

But this, I suppose, only vaguely explains it...

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Bull: Wow! If there is more to it than you have explained so beautifully, I guess only Gulzar can tell. I didnt know about the movie basically. A far-cry from "always-remembering-the-gone-partner" kind of cliches, indeed. THANKS, Bull.

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Raj : There is one more lovely song in the same movie,

jaanE kyaa sOchkar nahin guzraa
ik pal raat bhar nahin guzraa

Anyone knows full lyrics of this song? I remember this ...

dO ghadi jeenE ki muhabbat to milI hai sabkO
tum bhi gar saath dO ghadi bhar to yeh kam hOtaa hai
ik ghadi kaa safar nahin guzraa
(jaanE kyaa sOch kar...)

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ahhhhhhh! Where did that word creep in from??

It should be
dO ghadi jeenE ki moholat to milI hai sabkO

sorry for that!

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Bull: Naan dhaan munnadiye observe panninenae..that word is your favourite..perhaps, always it is running in the background..))

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Bull: Yes that's the song I was referring to.

Raj: Mausam is Madanmohan indeed.

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Bull: Yes that's the song I was referring to.

Raj: Mausam is by Madanmohan indeed.

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Here is a nice interview with the legend.
See Lata Mangeshkar's interview on :
http://www.rediff.co.in/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/;execmacro/music_content.d2w/report?fname=2503lata.htm

We were talking about this particular incident sometime back, so Im reproducing here an extract from the interview...

Who else did you get into fights with, apart from Shankar-Jaikishan? People say O P Nayyar had a fight with you and never let you sing any of his songs?

Oh no, I never had a fight with O P Nayyar.

But everyone believes you did....

These are all malicious rumours. Nayyarsaab was always very courtly with me. I used to like his music a lot.

But somehow I always felt the type of songs he created were better suited to Asha or Geeta Dutt. I used to think so then and continue to think so today.

Why did you never sing for him?

No, they were different types of songs, in a style which was not suited to my voice. Once, I remember, I had a recording with him and I fell ill and had to cancel it.

Even after that he (Nayyar) called me and I didn't go. But we never had a fight. I mean, he used to ring me and rib me -- he used to say "I've heard that you hear a tune on the telephone and you can reproduce it faultlessly. A music director sounds a key on the harmonium and you know what the song is, but this won't happen with me. I'm a tougher cookie. If you want to sing for me, you'll have to rehearse the song countless times."

So basically, he used to joke and kid with me.