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    How many marks did AV give to that movie ?? Do you know the approximate date of release? I can look it up online

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    More on Barathiraja.

    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    Groucho,
    Agreed with you ..But BR himself told that If NT wouldn't agree to do this role ,he would have droped the movie itself ,since he made the story with NT in mind ,and the title 'Muthal Mariyathai' is not just for the story ,it is BR's muthal mariyathai to NT.
    And it was one helluva collaboration. As Groucho mentions Ilayaraja and Vairamuthu are in fantastic form elevating the movie to an all time high. The flute piece when Ranjani's body is recovered and the stone liftin theme still ring in my ears. Vairamuthu richly deserved his national award for 'poongAtru thirumbumA'. And he had some more to spare with the simple and beautiful 'vetti vEr vAsam/vidalai puLLai nEsam'. The Vairamuthu-Ilayaraja split is one of the most unfortunate for TFM The loser,IMO, was IR.

    IMO, Bagyaraj's ThAvaNi Kanavugal tried to milk the respect that NT's presence commanded. Amongst his later films, Muthal MariyAdhai and ThEvar Magan are the only movies that brought out Sivaji's genius. Muthal MariyAthai is a departure from Sivaji's dialogue intensive style, with BR relying playing heavily (sometimes a tad too heavily) to his strengths.

    I remember ManObala (who was BR's asst) mentioning once that SivAji jibing BR: "unakku thAn dialogue-E pudikkAdhE. en dialogue-ai thookki kuLathula pOduve, poovule pOduve "
    The restraint in words serves to make the dialogues (when they are spoken) even more powerful. Though it is is tough to quote just one instance in the film to highlight this, I'll quote the panchAyat scene where the townsfolk are questioning SivAji about his alleged affair.

    We arrive late in the panchAyat scene (the previous scene was SivAji, about to enter the house when he hears his wife lamenting loud inside). Everyone starts off a sentence and silenced by SivAji's glance (an undecipherable yet forbidding mix). The scene ends with SivAji announcing out loud that their accusation is correct.

    At the end of that the visuals move back (in cuts) from a close shot to a relatively wide shot. At each stage we see the crowd thinning out. And in the last one SivAji is all alone.

    It is only in the next scene where he tells Radha : " 'kkALi pOkkaththu pOi sAvadiyile thoongra payAluvalellAm kELvi kEttupputtAingya". It doesn't even sound like he is explaining himself (though he is). His anger, pride (even though he is feeling penitent now) is brought out so beautifully because the dialogue comes one scene late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd
    How many marks did AV give to that movie ?? Do you know the approximate date of release? I can look it up online
    Ive searched a lot...

    if u get PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd
    How many marks did AV give to that movie ?? Do you know the approximate date of release? I can look it up online
    not sure abt the marks.. and the book was dated 3rdweek of 8/2006

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    AV\Kumudham just praised the movie. Mark ellam podala ...

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    Bharathiraja is one of the worst directors in tamil cinema when it comes to song picturisation.....he has killed many IR and ARR songs with his amateurish picturisation.....just 3 samples to start with.....

    - wat a song from the maestoro.....

    the director and producer shaking their head
    that famous chandrashekar smile
    then angels in yellow half torn clothes playing guitar like Kurt Cobain
    chandrashekar jumping and playing in a hotel server dress
    there is a symphony going on in the beach only...this is where "Bach symphony" evolved??
    tell u wat IR looks the best in that song.....



    the brahmin topless hero and christian wedding dress clad heroine...they were supposed to marry but end up singing in flower rain
    showing children performing acts of love......isnt this child abuse??
    who is showering those flowers from the sky??
    ultimately they strip naked to sleep in flower bed.....hahaha



    just watch for the slow motion "try" by Nizhalgal ravi in the middle of the song..... ......its funnier than T.Rajender's movies......

    there are hordes of other great songs by the maestoro and "smiling assasin" which were wasted by BR.......the entire KKS album was killed by BR which is "unbailable offence" for me..... .......kasthuri maane from puthumai pen is another example....

    wonder why there is so much hype about him that he is the best director ever?? Indian cinema means songs too......if e didnt like songs to be a part of the movie, he should have never taken it.......or he should have taken some training on song picturisation b4 he ventured into movies.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MADDY
    then angels in yellow half torn clothes playing guitar like Kurt Cobain

    IR must have been like "En paatta vechu comedy keemedy pannaliye?"

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    One of the worst offenders in this is Ninaivellaam Nithya
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    his devathai typa walks are the most irritating.vj tv's kalakapovathu ridiculed it well.mani i think picturises songs well.especially roja(kadhal rojave.....,chinna chinna asai......),bombay(uyire......,kannalane.......),K M(rettaivaal sundari......,vidai kodu........,oru deivam),iruvar(all songs).bala is also gr8,selva misse out oru naalil.thottu thottu pogum thenral,15-16 and kan pesum vaarthaigal were good

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