Thillanas

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Lakshman, I hardly know anything about composers like Vinai Seshayyer... Do you think it would be a good idea to start a separate thread and talk about these great "other composers" (make it a point not to talk about the trinity, swathi thirunaal, purandara daasar etc :)) - I am sure your info about them would be helpful to most of us here ... your comments please

Nado narayanan - interested? or may be you guys already know about these people :)

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IR:
...and who is Nado narayanan ??
Just Kidding ::::::)))))))

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I have no problems with starting a new thread on contemporary composers. They too deserve our attention. I checked on Vinai Shesha Iyer's compositions and they are only about 200- not 400 as I said earlier. However he has used ragas like Basantbahar, Dipikavasanta, Hamsakalyani, Hamsalata, Hemant, Jyotishmati, Kamalaveni, Kanakakusumavali, Lalitamanohari, Mallikavasanta, Pranavapriya, Puriadhanashri and sukumari.

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thanks Lakshman - looking forward to your contributions :)

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tit for tat Narayanan ((

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Actually Lakshman had mentioned Veenai Shesha Iyer as a comtemporary 20th century composer in another thread. What are the raagas Kamalaveni and Hamsalata ?

also the NarayanTirtha tillana ? Is that his or was it reset ? I still can't figure out why SyamaSastri doesnt have any tillanas. He borrowed so much from dance otherwise.

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Kamalaveni is from mela 56 and uses S R M P D N S; S N D P M R S as its notes. Hamsalata is a janya of Latangi and has the scale: S R G P N S; S N D P M G R S.

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Nadopasaka:
I am not sure Narayana Tirtha had composed a tillana (Begada) even though it is on my list. I don;t know where I got the entry from. I am now in the process of listing all the references for my song titles and eventually I can pinpoint the source. There will probably be a long wait though.

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Can a vocalist include 'thillana' type phrases 'dhika, dhim etc. ' into a kriti , say during 'neraval' etc. ? Are there krities with such 'thillana' phrases either set up by the composer ( somewhat like 'chittaswaras') or performed extempore by the vocalist ?

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Nadopasaka:
I don't know if a singer can introduce solkattu svaras into a niraval or not. Maybe a peforming artist like Nandini can answer that question. But there are many compositions of Uttukadu Venkatasubbier that use such svaras as part of the song. I will find one as a sample and post it later.