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26th December 2004, 07:29 AM
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RR (@ 202.*) on: Tue Dec 21 09:45:57 EST 2004
M: MSV kalandhu katti oru 'Mixture Sivaranjani' pottadhaa vachukkalaam
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26th December 2004 07:29 AM
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Ramki (@ 68.6*) on: Tue Dec 21 18:41:00 EST 2004
RC you must be correct. As i mentioned in my post i saw this song very long time back
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dheivathin thereduthu(paattum naane bharathamum naane)
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Song: deivathin thereduthu
Film: Paatum bharathamum
Singer : TMS
Music : MSV
Lyrics : Kannadasan
- Another classic from MSV with a great combination of wonderful lyrics, powerful voice and excellent tune. If TMS impresses you with his gambeera sogam, Kannadasan floors you with the rare usage of uvamais.
The lyrics will have more meaning if the situation is explained:
Sivaji and jayalalitha, professional bharathanatyam dancers, fall in love with each other after the tamil film norm fights and tiffs.
Since Sivajis family will be against this relationship, he will marry JJ against their wishes. But soon he will start suspecting her which will lead to their seperation. By the time he realises his mistake, she will fly out of the country with his child in her womb.
Todays pick comes at this situation. Kannadasan aptly starts(after the thogaiyar 'karapanaikku')
deivathin thereduthu deviyai thedu
devikku thoodhu sella thendrale odu
aavikuL aavi aanandha aedu
avaL illaiyendraal naan verum koodu
paavaikku pottuvaithen naan oru koadu
paadi parandhadhamma iLankuyil pedu
-just by reading the 4 lines we can learn the crux of the story.
The following 4 lines are the highlight of the whole song. sivaji, who will be shown as a young man at the start of the song, will slowly transform into an oldperson through the duration of the song.
Kannadasan beautifully captures the change in seasons in these 4 lines
neer vatri ponadhendru ninaivinil vedippu(kodai)
nenjathil thondrudhammaa vasanthathin thudippu(vasantham)
maamazhai megam indru kaNgaLil iruppu(kaarkaalam)
maargazhi paniyandro avaLadhu sirippu(panikaalam)
Then the last 2 lines of the third charanam describes that our hero is old now
(narai vizhundhaalum nenjil thirai vizhavillai)
'paatum bharathamum' had sivaji in dual role(Father and son)JJ and sripriya were the respective jodis. The film had 4 great songs by MSV
Sivagaami aadavandhaal natarajan enna seivaan
maandhorana veedhiyil meLangaL
mazhaikaalam varugindradhu(MSV,VJ) and
deivathin thereduthu
There is also another song for the 'son' sivaji(sivaji with horrible make up and ultra overacting). I think it was by SPB.
This is what Mrs Charumathi has to say about this song
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'karpanaiku mEni thanthu' is based on 'chakravaagam'. This raaga is
16 'mELa' and it has
the following aaro, avaro and 'swarasthana':
Aro: Sa Ri1 Ga2 Ma1 Pa Da2 Ni1 Sa
Avo: Sa Ni1 Da2 Pa Ma1 Ga2 Ri1 Sa
You can also say that this song is based on 'ahir bhairavi' in
hindustani raaga.
The song is set to Adi thaLa and it has a unusual format for a film
song. Normally,
first two lines of 'pallavi' repeats throughout a song; however
3rd and 4th line of pallavi repeats in this song. ie 'deivathin thEr
eduthu dEviyai thEdu'
and 'dEvikku thoothu sella thendralE Odu' repeats, but the first two
lines never repeat.
'Jadhi' appears in the end of song and reminds of 'Siva's uruthira
thaaNdavam' which is also
uncommon in a film song.
The music director brought a sad feeling through the song and I'm not
sure about the situation
in the movie; especially the lines 'narai vizhunthaalum nenjil thirai
vizha villai' reminds me
the sad feeling. It's very rare that 'narai' appears in a film song.
The lyrics has lots of 'Old Tamil' words which is not easy to
understand the underlying
meaning.
MD used "Senai' instrument which also adds the sad feeling to the song.
Musically this song is similar to 'uLLathil nalla uLLam' from 'karNan'.
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RR (@ 218.*) on: Wed Dec 22 04:40:05 EST 2004
Ramki: I always confuse this song with 'sandhega kodu' (also in chakravagam). Which movie is that from?
Is the SPB song 'I will sing for you' ?
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raja m (@ 24.4*) on: Wed Dec 22 09:21:41 EST 2004
RR : the song is my song is for you - SBP goes pretty wild in the song, especially guess who - sounds like gas who..
I will sing for you - I think is from Manidharil maanikkam.
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T (@ 12.3*) on: Wed Dec 22 09:56:48 EST 2004
RR, sandhega kodu is from Sorgam Naragam...
Sivaji, jj & sripriya?? which year did this movie come out?? I guess it should be during thoppai sivaji period
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RR (@ 202.*) on: Wed Dec 22 10:56:01 EST 2004
raja m: I think you are rite. I like spb in that song
T: thanks, how could i forget, I've seen that movie.
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RC (@ 204.*) on: Wed Dec 22 11:30:50 EST 2004
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Ramki (@ 68.6*) on: Wed Dec 22 17:48:28 EST 2004
raja m nice to see your post after a long time.
'i will sing for you i will dance for you' - isnt that by TMS/LRE
T i think PB was the first movie with sivaji-sripriya combo. According to Tamilcinema this film was released in 1975
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RR (@ 192.*) on: Thu Dec 23 03:19:00 EST 2004
Paattu bharathamum is a pretty good semi classical album by MSV. Though one could argue TMS was past his prime then, the melodies are still captivating. Apart from 'deivathin thereduthu',
1. sivagami aadavanthaal - I remember this is a pOtti dance between Sivaji & JJ. They both have to draw a picture (i forgot what) on the floor with their feet while dancing (this idea was copied in 'Kaadhalan'). They start off fine, but ultimately JJ misses a key point in the picture and sivaji wins (hero had to..what!). When TMS sings 'mayakkaamaa.. kalakkamaa.. kanakkile kuzhappamaa', you can easily picturise sivaji's victorious looks and JJ in disbelief.
This song is a ragamalika. Starts with Amirthavarshini (how majestic the pallavi!), kanada,charukesi and rounds off with Madhyamavadhi(?).
2. maanthorana veedhiyil - light song. I think based on sindhu bairavi.
3. mazhaikkaalam varugindradhu - Very good one from VJ. Sounds hindustani-ish. Is the MSV part from classical literature?
If you are a MSV, it's worth many listens.
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/26/s/movie_name.5074/music_director.762/
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