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1st August 2005, 10:16 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by
Shankar
In the beginnig of the second stanza of "nee dhAnE endhan ponvasantham" what's the instrument played alogside acoustic guitar producing "wocawoca...wocawoca" kinda sound
A better example...beginning of "senyorita I love you" from johnny has the same instrument...Isn't this electric guitar ?
Heard it in some old pop albums and to some extent in jimi hendrix as well
That is a processed electric guitar. processing alters the sound of the guitar, and there are many popular processing techniques. IR uses "Wah", "Phaser" and "Flanger" a lot in his songs. The three are a bit similar to each other, and alter the tone and give a waxing/waning sort of sound to the guitar. This song u mentioned seems to use wah effect. Ilaya nila also uses phaser throughout the song. The ending gutiar in "chamber welcomes thiagaraaja" is also using flanger/phaser.
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1st August 2005 10:16 PM
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1st August 2005, 11:20 PM
#12
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ananth, That's very good info...Is the same tech. responsible for those (extended-guitarish) sounds in the first interlude of `madai thiRandhu pAyum nadhi alai nAn' from nizhalgaL?
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2nd August 2005, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
ananth, That's very good info...Is the same tech. responsible for those (extended-guitarish) sounds in the first interlude of `madai thiRandhu pAyum nadhi alai nAn' from nizhalgaL?
yes "madai thiranthu" is a very good example of the effects.
also "eeramaana rojaave" background chords use similar effect.
In lot of IR songs the background chords are played using flanger or phaser. IR also likes to couple this with arpeggio playing on the guitar (i.e. the chord is not strummed at once, but played note by note. for example "oh butterfly" song) Thus there is a melodious note-by-note arpeggio but the flanger also makes it sound full making it sound like strumming. You can notice this if you listen carefully to the backround in Ilaya Nila or Eeramaana rojaave.
Notice the difference in the way the chords are played in Ilaya nila for pallavi and charanam. Pallavi uses strumming, but charanam uses arpeggio. but both are flanged.
For technical info about guitar effects check this out:
http://users.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/fx-desc.htm
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2nd August 2005, 05:12 AM
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Hi Ananth,
Very interesting, in the link u mentioned it says "Flangers mix a varying delayed signal (usually about 5mS to 15mS) with the original to produce a series of notches in the frequency response.", does that mean the duration of these effects are short ( I mean milli seconds)? Amazing stuff... I wish they made Music lessons a mandatory to every human being who goes to school on the earth.
Oh my God....How much time I have wasted in this life, I feel sometimes I am unfit to listen to some of Maestro's music due to mere lack of Music knowledge, yet as IR says, his music has always taken me to a different level and I am ever thankful to him for that.
Thanks again
Prabhudas
Long Live Maestro and his immortal music
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2nd August 2005, 09:54 AM
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Prabudas says ' Oh my God....How much time I have wasted in this life, I feel sometimes I am unfit to listen to some of Maestro's music due to mere lack of Music knowledge, yet as IR says, his music has always taken me to a different level and I am ever thankful to him for that.'
100% true, me too!! very sad about my pathetic music knowledge. I am blessed with Ilayraaja's music, indeed we are fortunate!!!
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2nd August 2005, 10:17 AM
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thanks ananth for the info...
I've felt that's one instance where guitar has an advantage over the violin...With the violin you can only play the arpeggio and never a chord. Everytime we play the violin, we feel how wud it be to play the chords as one does with the guitar...
(for the non-WC folks, arpeggios are individual notes of chords played one after another rather than simultaneously. They are the notes 1, 3, 5 1' played in succession..sa ga pa sa)
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2nd August 2005, 04:45 PM
#17
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hey some one clear by doubts on an instrument used in TIS here
http://ursmusically.blogspot.com/200...llayaraja.html
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