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28th March 2012, 04:47 PM
#1161
Administrator
Platinum Hubber
Plum, edhukku? ae is not interested. I was waiting for him to ask the pertinent questions, but he is only interested in putting his point across.
Sometimes ppl do not listen becos they only want to argue. no loss for me. 
I am out of here.
Never argue with a fool or he will drag you down to his level and beat you at it through sheer experience!
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28th March 2012 04:47 PM
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28th March 2012, 05:27 PM
#1162
Senior Member
Diamond Hubber
nov, apdi ellaam poga koodadhu...
neengal ellaam sollaam #ilayathalaimurai epdi palasa therinjukkradhu?
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28th March 2012, 08:07 PM
#1163
Senior Member
Platinum Hubber
ok, the cat won't be around...so one more "mouse play"...
In art / creative fields, most often the person is the more influential factor, than the process.
Give even the best poems of the world to a below-average musician, you cannot get classics.
Similarly, below-average poet cannot make a song classic, even if the melody given to him by the composer happens to be at the level of Mozart's symphony.
The above statements are just my opinions and NOT necessarily FACTS.
In case of solid data / stats otherwise, I will be happy to change my humble opinions 
It's for readers to decide whether I'm simbly interested in arguing / putting a point across etc and not willing to listen
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28th March 2012, 08:22 PM
#1164
Senior Member
Platinum Hubber
App - you have been humble all along and not claimed your opinion as a theorem(without proof). Ridiculous that you are being accused as not open to mARRu karuththu. Nov, sorry to say you are the one insisting that your word is fact and maarru karuthu is nonsense
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28th March 2012, 08:45 PM
#1165
Senior Member
Veteran Hubber
App
Good posts-nga. Just a small disagreement - The marriage of a great tune and a great poem is the ultimate but I don't agree that a great musical composition can be rendered mediocre by bad lyrics. To me, oru composition la mukkiyaamana vishayangal music-saarndhadhu, but lyric is not the biggest aani. Great lyrics are obviously super tohave but not primary. Mozhiyin sandhathula kachidhama ukkaandha podhumaanadhu
Mere "vaarthaigalukku melody" as the definition and even objective of music is outright ridiculous. Music is beyond words and need not be bound by words. Apparam Bach, Mozart ellaam vizhundhu vizhundhu sirippaa!
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"
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28th March 2012, 09:03 PM
#1166
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
When I listen to IR's music, I don't concentrate much on the lyrics. I always feel IR's ludes overshadow the lyrics
IR / KH / Sujatha / Bala / BC Lara / Curtly Ambrose
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28th March 2012, 09:06 PM
#1167
Senior Member
Diamond Hubber
most of the times yes.
but if music is the only important factor for a song, then we need not worry for the diction as long as the song is pitch perfect. illaya?
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28th March 2012, 10:02 PM
#1168
Senior Member
Veteran Hubber
Softsword
Like I said (speaking for myself), mozhiyin sandham enakku mukkiyam, and hence diction. Adhu illenna I see it as a sell out, laziness or even a compromise of integrity (of course unless it is by design, for the situation)
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"
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28th March 2012, 10:06 PM
#1169
Senior Member
Diamond Hubber
mozhiyin sandhatthayum naan pitch perfect kulla sertthuttaen...
indhi musiclaam rasikkirappo ennattha mozhi ennattha diction...
but i get what i say.
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28th March 2012, 10:26 PM
#1170
Senior Member
Veteran Hubber
Some tunes are simple/staccato sandhams but fitting the language - you can't write great lyrics for those. Where does the composer take the song from that tune? Is itby intention or inability?
Simple "trivial" tune, fantastic orchestration
Simple touching tune, minimalistic orch
Complex complex
Complex minimalistic
Ippadi palveru possibilities irukku. Composeroda function idhellaam dhaane?
Why should diction be compromised just because one values compositional qualities like this?
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"
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