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17th May 2012, 11:16 PM
#891
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Originally Posted by
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P_R,
venkki brought up a good point about why Krishnasamy was left alone with no help from relatives/neighbours (of his village) even in acute situation. Neither he did any consultation with others (at least was not shown) before moving to Chennai, nor they helped him. I know sakala replied saying 'logic'laam romba paakkakoodaathu'.
I know for the kind of story he has to tell through this film, he has to compromise something, but since it is coming from Kamal, I think there should be more reason to this. I too feel it is glaringly obvious.
Would like to know your take on this, if you can please.
Mahanadhi remains one of my favourite movies till now but the point Venki raised has always been a question in my mind too. In the initial scenes Krishna is shown as a well respected person in his native but when he faces troubles there's no body (ulagam appadithaan kashtapadumpOthu gavanikka yaarum irukka maattaang'ra poali thaththuvam ellaam sellaathu) Irrespective of all good, political and 'philosophical' aspects in the movie - this particular thing remains as a weak link and doesnt let me accept this movie as all time greats of Kamal. And I am unable to come to terms that all sort of worst and cruelest things on earth can happen to such a good man like Krishnasaamy.
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17th May 2012 11:16 PM
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17th May 2012, 11:19 PM
#892
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Solla maRanthuttaen..
Very nice posts and interpretations by you Prabhu ! As always
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17th May 2012, 11:22 PM
#893
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And a good point noted there by Maddy. Avar sonnathukku appuramthaan 'ada aama'-nu thOnuchu.
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17th May 2012, 11:33 PM
#894
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i think the message there is, when a well established family moves out of a village, they shed away their sutramu natpum and they are all on their own...
also high chances that the landlord krishnasamy in his native would have made some enemies out of his relatives who are landlords, like paying more and giving more benefits to the labours and that could have made them to stay away from other landlords... and there always could hav been a coldwar... even during the festival we cannot see any other family with him other than the workers... a similar scene is there in yudhamsei when the family move out of their village... and they are left alone too...
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17th May 2012, 11:41 PM
#895
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Well these things do happen.

Originally Posted by
Roshan
And I am unable to come to terms that all sort of worst and cruelest things on earth can happen to such a good man like Krishnasaamy.
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17th May 2012, 11:43 PM
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Point is, after he gets mild doubts at the party, he loses confidence on that girl. Later, he gets severe doubt and consults his friend'ly lawer Mohan Venkatram. He says Madrasla ithana company irukkurathe doubt, and leaves in urgency. Then, when he tries to take money, the Cash locker is empty. Even before he tries to react, People suspects and beats him badly. Then, as the company is in HIS name and he has lost the money, he is caught up badly. Maybe even if he passes message to his family, after going to jail, to contact that lawer, maybe danush ha Minister's link and may have merattified that lawyer too, making kirshnaswamy helpless..
Point is, Krishnaswamy is not shown as man with great intellect. He is just a pure honest man and things shown in the movie conveys that he is kind of in a shell, though he is too too a honest person. Thatswhy he VEroda Pidungify his links in his native village and totally moves to city, leaving almost nothing in his village. He thought of new life for him and his family, and somehow, may be a (bad) hunch, believed danush toomuch, to very shortly find out that is his life's biggest mistake. Things happen that fast that he is caught in cliche. He sitting in jail, and boht him and his family kind of desserted and knows nobody, and very imp, he is the stake owner of the lost money which creates ppl's anger. Chit fund, emaathittaan, is what everybody would think, no? Actually he has choosen plots very perfect - chit fund. Real life chitfund cheating happened even after this movie came.
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17th May 2012, 11:44 PM
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goodman/badman'kum idhukkum enna sammandham... its just happens....
Last edited by SoftSword; 17th May 2012 at 11:50 PM.
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17th May 2012, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan
In the initial scenes Krishna is shown as a well respected person in his native but when he faces troubles there's no body (ulagam appadithaan kashtapadumpOthu gavanikka yaarum irukka maattaang'ra poali thaththuvam ellaam sellaathu)

What I quoted (aRRa kuLaththin aRu neerppaRavai) is not some "thathuvam", it had been a reality and thus became proverbial.
I myself had seen a similar thing happening to a supposedly wealthy family, right in a kukkirAmam, who supposedly had a lot of servants etc. Then at one point of time, nodichchuppOnAnga. The parents died (I don't know how, could have been suicide, but that was before I was born). But I saw all three grown-up children who got mentally affected and roamed around in the very same village almost as beggars - azhukku sattai, pala nAL kuLikkAmal angangE yAchakam kEttu nadappArkaL!
Their house became 'pAzhadaindha veedu' right next to the bus stop in the village. (I am talking about the village where my dad worked & where I grew up). Nobody cared for those three - except may be to give them tea & leftover food!
However, like I mentioned in my post to Venkkiram, this is not an "average situation" but possibly one-off.
Which is the case of most movies
(Does every left-out child in TN runs to Mumbai & become Varadharaja mudhaliyAr - Velu Naicker? Has every sales boy/girl in Saravana stores become the angAdiththeru hero/heroine?)
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17th May 2012, 11:56 PM
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Good points ss and sakala. Thanks. Since we tend to think so many ways, as the movie did not convey those details about his village relationships and why no one was helping him when he was in a big problem, my question is, does Kamal the writer intentionally wants the viewers to build their own stories. If so then there is no question and in fact we can appreciate the brilliance. As we have even seen some non-indian movies like this for the viewers to fill in the blanks. On the other hand, if that was not intentional and if we think of these possibilities just because we like him so much, then there is a glitch. I don't know if this makes sense, but could not ignore this.
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18th May 2012, 12:02 AM
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The most important point is, a character behaves certain way. Thats what the nature of character is all about. If it acts as what we expect, then its not real. The author defines the character that way. These kinda questions can be asked, and actually is being asked for every other film.
Robo design panna scientist kku athai control panna mudiyaathaa?!? etc
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