Khan Saheb Kamal Haasan's Jamaat/Jeba Koottam/Devasthaanam - Part 8

[sathya_1979]

Hey Ram 1 vs no of other movies against Hindu beliefs, speeches. EquationE thappu. Also, pilees to the enlighten what all pitfalls of Islam were "condemned" in Hey Ram?

[irir123]

கசாபை கசாப்பு பண்ணவேண்டும் என்று கொந்தளிக்கும் சக-இந்தியர்களின் எண்ணிக்கை தான் உலுக்கி எடுக்கிறது.

irir123, every religion has unsavoury texts - silapala homam incantations bear liberal footprints of primitive pasts. Are we going to wave texts at each other and base our arguments on that? There are liberal interpretations and right wing nut-job interpretations. We all know that.

Anyway, all this is to be taken to a different thread, why do you expect Kamal to 'expose' Islam?

btw, that quote above is by Venkikram and not me!

i still respond thus: Kamal may or may not choose to 'expose' islam - that is his individual / artistic right ! however, if he calls himself a liberal-minded intellectual interpreting art through the medium of cinema, often painting with a political brush with socio-political subtexts, then there is no way he can ignore the current Indian reality, that more or less followed this sequence 'shah-bano-divorce-court-settlement-turned-on-its-head-by-rajiv n co-followed-by-congress-sponsored-shilanyas-in-ayodhya-paving-way-to-hindutva-resurgence' - why does he choose to be safe and conveniently not take the hard route as Nihalini did with 'Tamas' in the 1980s ?

each time his project promises to engage viewers like me in a serious intellectual dialog, and yet the dialog almost always strives to portray some as victims - there are two sides to a story - lets hear it out - HEY RAM tried to do it effectively, though it failed him commercially - does that mean that its ok to use some targets as safe punching bags for interim commercial gains ?

[sathya_1979]

adhE @irir123

[app_engine]

UPO-la kasAbai kasAppu paNNinadhu ennavAm?
(kaNNeer speech notwithstanding, weren't the extremists blasted off?)

[kid-glove]

Have a feeling that one pitchdark night, right wing extremists cornered KH and did to him, what the jail convicts did to Krishnaswamy in Mahanadhi.

[irir123]

and seriously, for someone so well-read like Kamal, am sure he is more than just privy to the scathing criticisms levied on Islam by liberal intellectuals in the west - in fact, am sure that many of Kamal's rationalist ideas stem from these works - his use of 'parinaama valarchhi' (evolution) of social values and institutions like marriage is most likely derived/inspired from Dawkins, Hitchens, Ridley and co, rather than the works of periyaar etc! however, he chooses to avoid the references to some religions and in fact applies the same critical approach to understand the rise of 'hindutva' - methinks so

[HonestRaj]

UPO-la kasAbai kasAppu paNNinadhu ennavAm?
(kaNNeer speech notwithstanding, weren't the extremists blasted off?)

including Karamchand lala.... [andha "lala" ngradha azhuthi sollanum]

[sathya_1979]

UPO remake, max few changesdhaan paNNa mudiyum. The point is abt own/ straight movies and thoughts shared in public

[irir123]

UPO is neither Kamal's original idea nor the concept his USP !

post-DASA, it was a 'quickie' adapted from 'a wednesday' - which IMHO, is far better than UPO!

remade stuff like UPO won't do!

[app_engine]

UPO remake

Wasn't it KH who chose to remake?