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Thread: Khan Saheb Kamal Haasan's Jamaat/Jeba Koottam/Devasthaanam - Part 8

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    K-G.. our society will be quick to heap scorn on the stars if they were to speak on these delikate matters..so kudos to Aamir for going against the grain..Barkha dutt pandrathum Aamir pandrthum onnaguma
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy View Post
    K-G.. our society will be quick to heap scorn on the stars if they were to speak on these delikate matters..so kudos to Aamir for going against the grain..Barkha dutt pandrathum Aamir pandrthum onnaguma
    Ohhh.. stars speaking on delicate matters will go against them?

    But when stars do a manipulative azhugachi show, it'd not go for them too?

    In fact, I find media sucking up badly to Aamir..

    And let's face it, Aamir probably wanted to do reality show channelling his 'otherness'. I'm not saying there's genuineness in him to do this, but it doesn't mean what he did is something as 'delikate' as it's made out to be. In fact, Aamir is known to build persona and stature precisely for stuff like this. He takes up on some specific issues, even his films like TZP, RDB, 3I, etc.. and straddles a cliche ridden route. But for taking this issue, he takes credit for 'social awareness'..

    I was watching Star world, Anupama Chopra show. I was shocked to see the guy taking credit for some random incident where an elderly women is asked to take back her aashirvad of 'be blessed with a son'.. re.Female infoeticide. He brackets that as a 'response' to his show. You have to question such intentions.
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    Meanwhile on stars and social awareness

    Jackie

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    Ohhh.. stars speaking on delicate matters will go against them?
    ask SRK..he was termed 'Paki' when he spoke about Pak players in IPL.

    But when stars do a manipulative azhugachi show, it'd not go for them too?
    mileage is given..the end justifies the means..I don't see Surya/Vijay or any of our stars getting a lyricst to talk about Alcohol abuse..
    no star would want to get their hands dirty by speaking on 'uncool' issues.

    And let's face it, Aamir probably wanted to do reality show channelling his 'otherness'. I'm not saying there's genuineness in him to do this, but it doesn't mean what he did is something as 'delikate' as it's made out to be. In fact, Aamir is known to build persona and stature precisely for stuff like this. He takes up on some specific issues, even his films like TZP, RDB, 3I, etc.. and straddles a cliche ridden route. But for taking this issue, he takes credit for 'social awareness'..
    taking up social issues before a movie release is been done by all and sundry..even a press/media shy Prakash Jha can be accused of doing it.
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    But here's the narrative, it's 'uncool issues' that makes Brand AK 'cool'.
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    @ saakkisraap

    Maththapadi no comments. I find 'issues' based programs boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kid-glove View Post
    "One, even what we know, discussing it on such a platform is something remarkable."

    sollavE illa...
    Yes, caste is in many ways the elephant in the room that nobody talks about. So talking about it is remarkable. What's odd about this logic?
    Quote Originally Posted by kid-glove View Post
    Aamir's crying is worse than Visu. Idhu mattum manipulative illaiya enna..
    Given it's a show that's edited and assembled together, I'd think it is 'manipulative' by design i.e. in a definitional sense. I don't have an opinion either way on his crying, etc.
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    But here's the narrative, it's 'uncool issues' that makes Brand AK 'cool'.
    Brand AK-vai vidunga, enakku adhaip paththi kavalaiyE illai. I'm just saying the issues he dealt with (haven't even watched some of the other the episodes fully) is a far cry from what Visu's show generally does (just the general impression I have, please point to specific instances if I'm wrong).
    Quote Originally Posted by P_R View Post
    I find 'issues' based programs boring.
    Same here but this one I sometimes find interesting. (I catch it on YouTube.)

    In general, this show is discussed so much that I watch it (some of it) in any case. The same way I've watched Visu's show too in the past, but my reaction in the two cases have been very different. That was my only point.

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    I'm just saying the issues he dealt with (haven't even watched some of the other the episodes fully) is a far cry from what Visu's show generally does
    Issues different, but design and all similarly manipulative and turn off for me. I've tried a lot, but I couldn't sit through it, like Visu's shows.
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    Just stumbled upon this btw: http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?281646 About what all gets censored in the show. I'm just beginning to read it, but I guess the gist of the issue S Anand points to is clear. idhu vERa panchayaththu, Aamir has to criticized for this.

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    Fair enough, k-g. Incidentally the Outlook piece discusses about how the show is manipulative to the point of showing something that didn't actually happen! I don't understand what compelled them to do all that. Anyway, I'll wait and watch.

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