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    Quote Originally Posted by bis_mala
    Quote Originally Posted by suthaama
    haathur Varnyam maya srushtam, Guna Karma vibhaagasaha
    Thasya karthaaramapi maam vidhyadhyakarthaaram avyayam

    ... which means... "Four Classifications (of Humanity) by birth, is my creation... on the basis of their VARIED QUALITIES. Although I am the creator of such divisions by birth, I do not conduct them furtheron so. (I intend them to develop and raise up themselves.. by the best and ultimate opportunity by the Super-birth as Mankind)
    Pardon me, just to clear by own doubt, in the Sans verse you cited, what are the Sanskrit words, which stand for the phrase: "by birth"?(which occurs in the interpretation above).
    Actually no word states birth here.

    The verse can be lterally translated as

    The four-varnas are created by Me on the basis if karma and guna
    But even the I am the creator , I am not one of them.

    The Lord says that the four types of people are created by Me.Created in the sense the four types are pre-existing , but the Lord energised them and manifested them on earth. But nothing is there to say that therefore it has to be decided by birth alone as the Lord says it is decided by Guna and Karma. But socially speaking it proceeds in a hereditary way as it is easier that way and also convention and also a sense of duty.Those days there were no careers , society was based on duties and usually people born in respective families continued in the same profession and this was the case all over the world. So I dont understand why hindus are so upset by the caste system.

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