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26th May 2012, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
E
Explain.
Veerappan vs. police backdrop establish paNNiruppAppalayE, adhaich chonnEn. In fact, it was almost like Mani had thought of this kind of subject for Tamil earlier but didn't get to making it. The name Veera, a govt.'s messenger etc.

Originally Posted by
Plum
Lazy theory.
Dil Se - widely panned by your "all india generic" folks
Roja - tamil primarily but with enough all India masala to succeed generically. But you'd agree that was one movie which even Mani wouldnt have made witht he Hindi market in mind. It was the accident that started many incidents in Mani's career
Bombay - a perfect example of your theory. Agreed.
Yuva - Om Puri's Calcutta politician is in no man's land and certainly worse than Paswan by the standards you set for Kamal. Certainly no all India generic appeal in this movie's characters. Compare Bharathiraja in tamil, and in general, how comfy in the skins the tamil actors/characterw were, and how much it made the movie
palatable in tamil
Guru - succesful, yes but Apisek is a Gujaratai business man. He had no business being the typical generic indhi feller, save for the occasional "bijnej".
Ravan - he he you talk about this one
Your claim is really tenuous and weak. It is hard to generalise the way you have.
Dil Se had a huge buzz. (Must be his biggest Hindi venture in that respect.) That's what I mean by a "fair chance." No film can be a definite hit, which ultimately depends on whether the audiences lap it up or not.
As for Yuva, I agree that Bharathiraja was better than Om Puri, but again it seems you can't help reflexively looking at how authentic and good the portrayal is (in your viewpoint), rather than the debate at hand. I'm not talking about authenticity but about making a proper Hindi film. Overdone Bengali accent is very much within this framework like how overdone Seth Tamil is within the framework of a mainstream Tamil film. Again this film too didn't do well (the Tamil one certainly did better even if it wasn't big), no denying that.
And btw, Bombay was after all just dubbed to Hindi like Roja, so it's not a good example for my theory, but Bala's point about making some sort of a national film in Tamil. But it's true that Mani had the Hindi version in mind operating in the wake of the big success of Roja.
Raavan-ukku appuRamA vArEn.
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26th May 2012 12:30 PM
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