Sindhanai Selvar Dr.Kamal HaasaR - favourite movies,scenes 2

[P_R]

Adhi's Last and final letter indicates that he himself 'finally' understood the ambivalence:

"theeviravaathikaL piRappathillai; uruvAkkappadukiRaarkaL; avarkaL uruvAkkappaduvathil arasiyalukkum, arasAngathukum perum pangu uLLadhu.....nALaiya thalaimuRai vazhipadappOgum kadavuL thuppAkki vadivil illAmal pArthuk koLLungaL..nadandhu mudinthavai sila aththiyAyangaLE - kathai innum mudiyavillai - adhai thayavu seithu mudithu vaiyyungaL"

This with the final shot of Narasimhan's son attacking Adhi's son - reinforces this. The writer isnt talking about the "Good vs Evil", but just a melancholic recounting of the Tragedy that has befallen a society not based on Civilization, natural justice but one that is a Authoritarian Entity which has a Shining wrapper of a democratic State where most of the citizens are mere puppets to the realisation process of an empowered "few".

Hmm.. Aadhi is indeed aware of the genuine grouse that creates Badris. 'You seem to be a man driven by ideology' is something he acknowledges first up.
We can see why Aadhi is the interrogator and not Abbas. Abbas can't see the other side and sees only black or white 'what sh*t are you talking man, endha nErathilaiyum neeyO naanO andha mAdhiri seyvOmA'. He is not able to see the human other side, even when it happens to someone close to him (perhaps he was not as close to Srinivasan as Adhi was in the first place)

Aadhi knew this externally. But only when it hits closer to home does he begin to realize that his fundamental beliefs are plastic. And then it takes another shock for him to recover and he has to take what he started to its natural conclusion. Very aware that he has not solved the problem in its entirety.

Though he says 'mudiththu vaiyungaL' Aadhi does not have a solution. He realizes the hopelessness of the situation.

Anyway, the reason I wanted to invoke KP is very specific.
Though Aadhi prides himself on being a 'romba nErmaiyAna komban' - it is only we the audience who is privy to the fact that he condones the killing of innocents as long as the cause is his, while judging Badri for EXACTLY the same.

This keeps coming up in various places in the film. What gives Aadhi the conviction that he is right? Merely being part of the establishment. And to what extent does he represent it? By playing by its laws (உன் முட்டாள்தனமான சட்டம், நீ நினைக்கிற எதையுமே செய்ய விடாது), or by circumventing the laws to serve the 'larger interests of the establishment', but then does it fully align with his சமுதாயக் கோபம் - or does he believe it does?

You can see the plainclothes vs. uniform reversals in many places (thanks to equanimus for pointing it out once).

The last time I watched it I was impressed by the scene where Badri escapes. Prasad and Narasimman - both wearing the police uniforms - aid him.
But what a difference between the two pretenders wearing uniforms. The one who pretends and serves for ideology lives. The one who pretends and serves the cause for -assumedly- mercenary reasons is killed. In fact Prasad may even be remembered as a hero who died in the cause of the nation!!

[P_R]

This is as bad as discounting the presence of Mortimer wheeler in Hey Ram!

Oh idhu yardstickகாவே ஆயிருச்சா

நான் அப்பொ பொறக்கலியே...நான் உன் கூட பொறந்தவன்டாn - which is quite unmissably THE crux of the film, not to mention supplementary clarifications like 'Gandhi was right, we can be brothers' - இதெல்லாம் பஞ்சுமுட்டாயா?

Any reading that even slightly deviates from positing Kamal as a Periyarin prachAra beerangi is a calculated, invidious attempt to suppress, oppress and depress-னே சொன்னா ஒரு கருத்தையும் உருப்படியா விவாதிக்க முடியாது. Atleast acknowledge that Kamal has a whole lot more to say than that.

இல்லைன்னா மைமகாரா 'open the bloody gates man I am the boss'க்கு கூட அர்த்தம் கற்பிக்கலாம். பல்லாயிரக்கணக்கான ஆண்டுகாலமாய், கோடானுகோடி மக்களுக்கு மூடிக்கிடந்த கதவுகளை திறக்கச்சொல்லி திராவிடக்கலைஞன் மக்கள் சார்பாக கர்ஜித்த வசனம். இதை மறுப்பவர்களுக்கு agenda உண்டு என்பதை விழுப்புணர்வுடன் கண்டுகொள்ளுங்கள். செறுக்குடன் அலையும் 'மேட்டுக்குடியே' நீங்கள் அந்நியமொழியைத் தான் கேட்பீர்கள் என்றறிந்தே அவன் ஆங்கிலத்தில் சொல்கிறான். உள்ளே நுழைய விட மாட்டேன் என்று வாயில்காக்கும் 'ஒரு சிலரு'க்கு இன்னி சங்கு

[HonestRaj]

இல்லைன்னா மைமகாரா 'open the bloody gates man I am the boss'க்கு கூட அர்த்தம் கற்பிக்கலாம். பல்லாயிரக்கணக்கான ஆண்டுகாலமாய், கோடானுகோடி மக்களுக்கு மூடிக்கிடந்த கதவுகளை திறக்கச்சொல்லி திராவிடக்கலைஞன் மக்கள் சார்பாக கர்ஜித்த வசனம். இதை மறுப்பவர்களுக்கு agenda உண்டு என்பதை விழுப்புணர்வுடன் கண்டுகொள்ளுங்கள். செறுக்குடன் அலையும் 'மேட்டுக்குடியே' நீங்கள் அந்நியமொழியைத் தான் கேட்பீர்கள் என்றறிந்தே அவன் ஆங்கிலத்தில் சொல்கிறான். உள்ளே நுழைய விட மாட்டேன் என்று வாயில்காக்கும் 'ஒரு சிலரு'க்கு இன்னி சங்கு

[venkkiram]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1Y9gD865vU

தொல்காப்பியத்தை கொடுத்துப் பாருங்க.. தெணறிடுவாறு அவரு. ஏன்! இங்கேயே கொடுத்துப் பாருங்களேன்.

[shilpa]

in most of kamal movies terrorism is portrayed.muslims are shown as killers.take for example the movie unnai pol oruvan.now vishwaroopa.kamal should be tolerant towards all religions.or else he will get into trouble again and again.he should learn to look before he leaps.

[irir123]

at the San Jose concert by IR last Friday the 1st of March, 2013, IR gave an interesting anecdote abt the origin of the 'maasi maasam aalaana ponnu' tune for Dharma durai - am paraphrashing him here:

"namma superstar illa ? avaru paattu composingku vandhu, 'thanni karuthhurichhu' tune madhiri venumnu indha situationukku - apdeenu kettaar - naan sonnen - adhu yerkanavey potta tune - indhaanga vera tune, indha situationukku correcta irukkum - adhu thaan 'maasi maasam aalaana ponnu' tune pirandha kadhai"

so there goes the Kamal link for this news in this thread !

[Avadi to America]

I think he told this in NJ concert also. My friend was in the concert and was raving the program particularly about mottai and spb. If I had been in NY i would have gone. Indeed a costly miss. Mottai Telugu audiance konjam kalachittaru as usual.

[irir123]

Avadi to America - I am usually very composed most of the times, particularly last 10 years or so - but this was one event, I just could not control my emotions!

man, honestly, I consider myself extremely 'blessed' / fortunate to have lived my school (chennai) and college (hyderabad) years during the golden years of IR's music!

and IR gave a truely balanced concert covering both telugu and tamil songs impeccably!

if i win a lottery for a million dollars, I will personally have an IR concert in NY times square with Adele, or, Celine Dion singing 'satru munbu', 'oru naal andha oru naal', 'idhayam pogudhey' etc

[SoftSword]

at the San Jose concert by IR last Friday the 1st of March, 2013, IR gave an interesting anecdote abt the origin of the 'maasi maasam aalaana ponnu' tune for Dharma durai - am paraphrashing him here:

"namma superstar illa ? avaru paattu composingku vandhu, 'thanni karuthhurichhu' tune madhiri venumnu indha situationukku - apdeenu kettaar - naan sonnen - adhu yerkanavey potta tune - indhaanga vera tune, indha situationukku correcta irukkum - adhu thaan 'maasi maasam aalaana ponnu' tune pirandha kadhai"

so there goes the Kamal link for this news in this thread !

so eventually rajini got the better tune...

[irir123]

Softsword - yenna kusumbaa ? both were/are equally popular in terms of reach at the time of their release(s) - as simple as that - 'thanni karutthurucchu' came out in 1979 and 'maasi maasam' in 1991 !

we dont know what the late Sridhar ( asked from IR) for ilamai - and it was not for the main character in the film played by Kamal - the song comes in the background !



'maasi maasam' is for the main character in the film - thats the difference