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5th August 2013, 09:02 AM
#181
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Originally Posted by
Arvind Srinivasan
The film looks very similar to 'The Fountain', a film that had a lot of religious and philosophical subtexts surrounding it and a film that was fun to explore. I for one hope the same from Irandam Ulagam. Seriously I still cant get to understand people's thinking about a movie's originality. No movie is completely original. It is is like asking if one's opinion or thought is original.
finally some rationality to this thread.But I beg to differ there are movies which are Original No one in rite mind can dispute it. Originality discussion was brought up by his highness Spielberg Selva. I agree with you each have their own onions and garlic. But copying others onions ( these days its called "inspiration") giving guys like rice cooking selva / Shenker a free hand for doing whatever they want with it, and then calling their works originals is shameful daasall.
Last edited by Dilbert; 5th August 2013 at 09:16 AM.
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5th August 2013 09:02 AM
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5th August 2013, 09:31 AM
#182
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Hello! Give some space/respect for Selva's attempts! And please stop dissecting a movie just based on a trailer. Humble request! This will completely remove the interest to watch for one who has little hope on it. When it comes to versatility Selva scores like Mishkin. So keep respecting our fellows. Its easy to blow out the candle!
சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...
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5th August 2013, 09:41 AM
#183
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram
Hello! Give some space/respect for Selva's attempts! And please stop dissecting a movie just based on a trailer. Humble request! This will completely remove the interest to watch for one who has little hope on it. When it comes to versatility Selva scores like Mishkin. So keep respecting our fellows. Its easy to blow out the candle!
Wow you think all his view points about his fellow artists and directors were respectful ? First let him direct a decent movie to earn my respect. If he has earned yours , keep it to yourself. Don't Stop a discussion because you don't like certain aspect of it.
My onions and Signature changes according to my desperate need to be in lime light as the BIG Brother :0 - just saying..
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5th August 2013, 09:53 AM
#184
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Harris Jayaraj, Vairamuthu and SPB have joined forces to render a romantic song in 'Irandam Ulagam', the forthcoming film of director Selvaraghavan. Starring Arya and Anushka Shetty in lead roles, 'Irandam Ulagam' is touted as an adventure story.
Composed by Harris Jayaraj, the number 'Kandar mayangum vandaar malarey...' has been penned by Vairamuthu and sung by S P Balasubrahmaniam.
Never argue with a fool or he will drag you down to his level and beat you at it through sheer experience!
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5th August 2013, 09:53 AM
#185
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I talked about originality just to drive home the point that it is a pointless notion to think about. Any idea, just an idea even if thought to be original owes its genesis to something thats already existent. So to talk about originality is just a sheer waste of time. Coming to Selvaraghavan, I really liked Aayirathil Oruvan- Not a perfect film, but the film scored brownie points for its genre- a concoction of semi fiction-fantasy and adventure, its style and the way it was presented. And the reason I mentioned 'The Fountain' was that it was a film that intrigued me when it first released and to think of it in a regional mileu sounds really fascinating. For all you know, this movie might not be even close in actuality. But the trailer do seems to indicate some similarity, you know.
“You never fail until you stop trying.”
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5th August 2013, 10:15 AM
#186
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Dilbert,
u hav rights to comment on anybody..bt giv sum respect on their talents... dont cal them as 'Spielberg selva', cooking rice,etc., ... its irritating to read.. hope u understand wt i said.. after all, u jus saw a trailer only.. nt a whole film...
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5th August 2013, 10:52 AM
#187
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Originally Posted by
Thala_rasigan
Dilbert,
u hav rights to comment on anybody..bt giv sum respect on their talents... dont cal them as 'Spielberg selva', cooking rice,etc., ... its irritating to read.. hope u understand wt i said.. after all, u jus saw a trailer only.. nt a whole film...
Dude it was irritating for me too to watch his interview , where he thrashed others.. as if he was a "spielberg" of tamil cinema.. Hence I merely quote what I feel about his attitude. Now you guys can cut this crap of finding fault in my posts and continue your discussion. If you guys don't like what I say (just ignore and move on).
For the last time stop spoon feeding thoughts..
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5th August 2013, 10:59 AM
#188
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Trailer is colorful but does not match to the expectation... indha padattha 2013 la release paNNiduvaraa?
Regarding his recent interviews, not able to understand why he started talking bad about all the others suddenly...
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5th August 2013, 02:50 PM
#189
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I thought I would keep it short by saying "I trust SR's Imagination" or "too early to say anythin", but I think I have to elaborate a bit. I am in accord with Venkkiram and Aravind Srinivasan, esp. with "space/respect" & "brownie points".
SR has his views and we have ours. Many of us commented on his interview (including myself). Even though I was with certain percentage favorable with him, I did not go ahead and explain why.
For ex : When the film maker designs something which the story needs, it’s most of the time rejected and replaced with anything else that is "believed" to be the current industry need.
The creator illustrates a scene : hero leaving the airport - last vision, his mom waving to him – gets in the plane - he sits and closes his eyes - his mom's last word rings in his ears - he imagines a song to keep intact the memory of his mom => Rejected. Idhulam ippo yaar sir parpanga. TV serial mari irruku.
Instead sambandhamey illadha oru song – Hero after all the sentiments at the airport, gets into the plane – he sits – an air hostess bends more than needed to offer him a glass of water - they both start dancing in a tropical island - highlight she is a “Bombay model” or "ex-miss-whatever"
Statistics (you can get a clue why there is “loss” in TFI)
A mother song = RS. 50,000
A dream song = Rs. 50,00,000
That does not mean that I am against such songs, I am ok if it’s strictly needed. Take Neerparavai – 2 duets – Love seen when he is an alcoholic – another one when he is tasting success. Yenna ma picturise panni irrupanga + Lyrics. They could have goes to Mauritius, no !
The point is : Every work comes with its own load of shit, and SR has the right to be furious just like us when our C code is rejected by the Release Manager.
That said, SR is the film maker who showed hatred love-lily. After Balachander and Bharathiraja (taking just prominent names) SR is the one of the director to showcase woman-hood as it is. We all talk about performance, but the emotion that he brings in the scene /situation itself is outstanding. In a Moodar Koodam song - "Kannodu Kangal Modha Vantha Vekkam, Manmedhu Intha Penmai thantha Sorgaam" – yenna oru lines. That Kangal + Vekkam + “Penmai thantha Sorgaam” can be seen in SR movies scenes. There are few directors who can bring it up in a scene which is less than 1 minute, repeat less than 1 minute screentime (Mouna Ragam – Mohan’s Thevippu – Revathi’s aloofness – excellent).
These are the materials those which should be taken from arguments and judgments. Any personal grudge on "any" film maker should be handled 'within' rather than brining baseless inappropriate comparisons.
(Even though I am all game for dissecting trailers and posters, respecting Venkkiram's post - true that not many "audience" are following it, I not wish talk about Fountain here. After watching 2nd world & if its apt, I will talk about it.)
Irandam Ullagam - I am on the wagon with people heading for FDFS (edit : if its released here).
Last edited by mappi; 5th August 2013 at 02:55 PM.
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5th August 2013, 06:31 PM
#190
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Originally Posted by
mappi
I thought I would keep it short by saying "I trust SR's Imagination" or "too early to say anythin", but I think I have to elaborate a bit. I am in accord with Venkkiram and Aravind Srinivasan, esp. with "space/respect" & "brownie points".
SR has his views and we have ours. Many of us commented on his interview (including myself). Even though I was with certain percentage favorable with him, I did not go ahead and explain why.
For ex : When the film maker designs something which the story needs, it’s most of the time rejected and replaced with anything else that is "believed" to be the current industry need.
The creator illustrates a scene : hero leaving the airport - last vision, his mom waving to him – gets in the plane - he sits and closes his eyes - his mom's last word rings in his ears - he imagines a song to keep intact the memory of his mom => Rejected. Idhulam ippo yaar sir parpanga. TV serial mari irruku.
Instead sambandhamey illadha oru song – Hero after all the sentiments at the airport, gets into the plane – he sits – an air hostess bends more than needed to offer him a glass of water - they both start dancing in a tropical island - highlight she is a “Bombay model” or "ex-miss-whatever"
Statistics (you can get a clue why there is “loss” in TFI)
A mother song = RS. 50,000
A dream song = Rs. 50,00,000
That does not mean that I am against such songs, I am ok if it’s strictly needed. Take Neerparavai – 2 duets – Love seen when he is an alcoholic – another one when he is tasting success. Yenna ma picturise panni irrupanga + Lyrics. They could have goes to Mauritius, no !
The point is : Every work comes with its own load of shit, and SR has the right to be furious just like us when our C code is rejected by the Release Manager.
That said, SR is the film maker who showed hatred love-lily. After Balachander and Bharathiraja (taking just prominent names) SR is the one of the director to showcase woman-hood as it is. We all talk about performance, but the emotion that he brings in the scene /situation itself is outstanding. In a Moodar Koodam song - "Kannodu Kangal Modha Vantha Vekkam, Manmedhu Intha Penmai thantha Sorgaam" – yenna oru lines. That Kangal + Vekkam + “Penmai thantha Sorgaam” can be seen in SR movies scenes. There are few directors who can bring it up in a scene which is less than 1 minute, repeat less than 1 minute screentime (Mouna Ragam – Mohan’s Thevippu – Revathi’s aloofness – excellent).
These are the materials those which should be taken from arguments and judgments. Any personal grudge on "any" film maker should be handled 'within' rather than brining baseless inappropriate comparisons.
(Even though I am all game for dissecting trailers and posters, respecting Venkkiram's post - true that not many "audience" are following it, I not wish talk about Fountain here. After watching 2nd world & if its apt, I will talk about it.)
Irandam Ullagam - I am on the wagon with people heading for FDFS (edit : if its released here).
Maturity and understanding of a subject doesn't come by just " by Imagining things / reading theories" . It comes only in form experience. Anyone trying to argue otherwise can actual walk on water / and they should.# Demigods
Every unsuccessful / Mediocre human being (not just Spielberg sleva) including me , have shown jealous over others success and achievement time to time. I / Spielberg Sleva might feel people whom we are criticizing are beneath us, that's just point of view its NOT THE FACT. First lets all understand that difference before entering in to heated debate space brownies and rainbow skittles.
These are his own words
1) At AO success meet, except my team no could have pulled off such a huge project so brilliantly etc etc. I am even planning Part II , that was the reason hero / kid escaped or something along those lines.
2) Fast forward , Question asked is this movie (IU) something smiliar to AO , his response oh no way , I suffered once . I don't want to go down that path again etc .. etc..
It was evident in his face, he was disgusted by that question.
You guys are supporting a guy , who couldn't stand behind his biggest project of his career. And you feel he still has credibility god save.
My onions and Signature changes according to my desperate need to be in lime light as the BIG Brother :0 - just saying..
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