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9th August 2013, 08:03 PM
#821
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vaali oru thalai sirantha lyricist...athukakga avara kannadasanoda compare panni... kanndasana vida periya kavinjar soldrathu....Not a good thing..... When valli entered into film industry kannadasan was already a big lyricist and writer....Many songs from vaali resembled kannadesan that's why people thought some of the vaali's great songs are written by kannadesan. Even vaali encountered this allegation adopting kannadasan's writing style and he accepted graciously as a complement. For an analogy, I misunderstood the songs sung by mano as SPB in the past. it's due to adaptation of mano's style of singing, sometime he filled the role of SPB.
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9th August 2013 08:03 PM
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9th August 2013, 10:14 PM
#822
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Hi Everyone, It was never my intention to drag Vaalee into a controversy especially after his recent untimely death. I just penned whatever I could recall. We should not forget that both Kannadhasan and Vaalee are almost in the same age group although the former was nearly a decade senior lyrics-writing wise. We should not forget that he refused to work as an assistant for Kannadhasan although he was struggling to make ends. He wanted to carve a niche career for himself independent of Kannadhasan. And he was successful at that. As what he repeatedly stated in one his recent serials in Kumudham, Ananda Vikatan and Thuglak - to outsiders it will appear that they are professional rivals but the reality is otherwise. They meet up quite regularly in the evenings to enjoy their favorite scotch. So, it is meaningless that we enter into a debate over who is best since the legends themselves acknowledged each others' capabilities. Wide news coverage about his death was given in practically all the weeklies and it is still continuing. Many if these magazines have lamented that there is no contemporary to write a proper eulogy for him like what he did for Kannadhasan. A question now arises. Will Vaalee be often quoted in upcoming films songs as a tribute - be it philosophical or love. We should not forget that Vaalee was the first to mention Kannadhasan in the song 'Kaalidhasan, Kannadhasan' (Soorakottai Singakutti 1983). That trend of utilising Kannadhasan's name still continues to this day. Of course, other lyricists like Pattukottai Kalyanasundram, Bharadidhasan and even Vairamuthu have been mentioned in some songs but they are negligible. If Kannadhasan was a man for all seasons then Vaali was the seasoned man for all. I hope this will put matters in the right perspective.
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10th August 2013, 01:49 AM
#823
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Originally Posted by
Avadi to America
vaali oru thalai sirantha lyricist...athukakga avara kannadasanoda compare panni... kanndasana vida periya kavinjar soldrathu....Not a good thing..... When valli entered into film industry kannadasan was already a big lyricist and writer....Many songs from vaali resembled kannadesan that's why people thought some of the vaali's great songs are written by kannadesan. Even vaali encountered this allegation adopting kannadasan's writing style and he accepted graciously as a complement. For an analogy, I misunderstood the songs sung by mano as SPB in the past. it's due to adaptation of mano's style of singing, sometime he filled the role of SPB.
Sir .. No one is comparing him to KD. KD's topic was not brought by us period.
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10th August 2013, 01:53 AM
#824
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Originally Posted by
mahendra raj
Hi Everyone, It was never my intention to drag Vaalee into a controversy especially after his recent untimely death. I just penned whatever I could recall. We should not forget that both Kannadhasan and Vaalee are almost in the same age group although the former was nearly a decade senior lyrics-writing wise. We should not forget that he refused to work as an assistant for Kannadhasan although he was struggling to make ends. He wanted to carve a niche career for himself independent of Kannadhasan. And he was successful at that. As what he repeatedly stated in one his recent serials in Kumudham, Ananda Vikatan and Thuglak - to outsiders it will appear that they are professional rivals but the reality is otherwise. They meet up quite regularly in the evenings to enjoy their favorite scotch. So, it is meaningless that we enter into a debate over who is best since the legends themselves acknowledged each others' capabilities. Wide news coverage about his death was given in practically all the weeklies and it is still continuing. Many if these magazines have lamented that there is no contemporary to write a proper eulogy for him like what he did for Kannadhasan. A question now arises. Will Vaalee be often quoted in upcoming films songs as a tribute - be it philosophical or love. We should not forget that Vaalee was the first to mention Kannadhasan in the song 'Kaalidhasan, Kannadhasan' (Soorakottai Singakutti 1983). That trend of utilising Kannadhasan's name still continues to this day. Of course, other lyricists like Pattukottai Kalyanasundram, Bharadidhasan and even Vairamuthu have been mentioned in some songs but they are negligible. If Kannadhasan was a man for all seasons then Vaali was the seasoned man for all. I hope this will put matters in the right perspective.
Mahendra Raj sir.. Thanks for understanding and yes this is what i was expecting from you. MSV rightly says VAali,KD & pattukottai are his 3 eyes.. So that is TRUE FACT and no one can negate.
remmebered day in day out .. No second thought about it
As you rightly said .. Irony is there is no contemporary to write a befitting eulogy though Pa.vijay tried a good one..
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10th August 2013, 10:54 AM
#825
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Originally Posted by
rajeshkrv
Sir .. No one is comparing him to KD. KD's topic was not brought by us period.
All those who read the news reports on Vaalee's death must have noticed this obvious thing. Nearly all mentioned Kannadhasan's name. In other words they have equated the both as contemporaries. That was the crux of the matter and no malice was meant. Hope this will put to rest misgivings, if any.
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10th August 2013, 05:51 PM
#826
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Longevity does not matter. To me, the order would always be.
1. Kannadasan
2. Vairamuthu
3. Vaali
சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...
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16th August 2013, 02:51 PM
#827
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very sad...
RIP
நடிகர் மணிவண்ணன் மனைவி திடீர் மரணம்
சென்னை: கணவர் இறந்த இரண்டு மாதத்தில் நடிகர் மணிவண்ணன் மனைவி செங்கமலம் இன்று திடீரென மரணம் அடைந்தார்.
பிரபல நடிகரும், இயக்குனருமான மணிவண்ணன் கடந்த ஜூன் 15ஆம் தேதி மாரடைப்பால் மரணமடைந்தார். இதையடுத்து, அவரது மனைவி செங்கமலம் (55) மகன் ரகுவண்ணனுடன் சென்னை கே.கே.நகர் ஜெய்பாலாஜி நகர் திருமலை தெருவில் வசித்து வந்தார்.
கணவர் இறந்த பின்னர் சோகத்தில் இருந்த செங்கமலத்திற்கு கடந்த சில நாட்களுக்கு முன்பு உடல்நிலை பாதிக்கப்பட்டது.
மருத்துவமனையில் அனுமதிக்கப்பட்டிருந்த செங்கமலம் இன்று அதிகாலை சிகிச்சை பலனின்றி உயிரிழந்தார். அவரது உடலுக்கு நாம் தமிழர் கட்சி தலைவர் சீமான், சினிமா பிரமுகர்களும் அஞ்சலி செலுத்தினர். இறுதிச் சடங்கு இன்று மாலை நடக்கிறது.
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16th August 2013, 02:58 PM
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