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29th August 2013, 10:11 AM
#541
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Originally Posted by
mappi
oru koppai-yum, sivasambo padalum sorgam - padal varigal purindhavargaluku
Siva Sambo - adobe of joy - thats during the point of self realisation, where the whole universe becomes dumb. Its the joy between you and yourself. Thats what exactly the song is all about. Many have said contradictory things about the song, but the fruit of the song is not contraversy or philosophy, its spiritual. Its quite beautiful how the enlightened Kanadasan has throughly mixed the purity and impurity (Shiva and materialistic things). He has explained one has to attain a certain set of mind where he is the supremo. He translates the materialistic joys which seems like "don't-care-master" but its actually the experience that one attains by the unification of oneself 'manam kondu endraale, sorgatthil idamundu'. The cross lanes are quite deep and intervened. Soorgam here is earth on which yourSELF can find joy. Don't know how - here is the don't-care-list 'ah mathuvundu, peN undu, sOr undu, sugam undu ', but 'manam kondu endraale' you acheive the ultimate. Remember you have the power, "kallai nee thindraalum jerikkinra naaLinru" ... and so on ...
About these lines :
manitha un jenmaththil ennaLum nannaaLaam
marunaaLai eNNathae, ennaLum ponnaaLaam
pallaakkai thookkaathe, pallaakkil neeyeru
unnaayuL thoNNooru, ennaLum pathinaaru ..
It starts with Mantiha - you are adressed by the supremo - its an assurance and not the literal 'live the minute" philosophy. The pallaku lines are self realisation, and finaly the 90 years is your body but your soul is ageless (indicated as 16 years).
This song is a seed, water it and it becomes a baniyan tree. Well, I wish not highjack Kochadayan thread, I stop here with A2A lines "anubavichu ezhuthi irrukaru"
ahaa... Yesterday Night idha padikkaama vittuttanE...
" The real triumph in life is not in never getting knocked down, but in getting back up everytime it happens".
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29th August 2013 10:11 AM
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29th August 2013, 02:38 PM
#542
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Originally Posted by
mappi
oru koppai-yum, sivasambo padalum sorgam - padal varigal purindhavargaluku
Absolutley ! Only Kanadhasan possible with such philosophical lyrics!
Om Namaste astu Bhagavan Vishveshvaraya Mahadevaya Triambakaya Tripurantakaya Trikalagni kalaya kalagnirudraya Neelakanthaya Mrutyunjayaya Sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya Shriman Mahadevaya Namah Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye
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29th August 2013, 03:41 PM
#543
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super post on sivasambo maappi... perfect for thalaivars look...
the extra badass look swallowed kamals extra charming look..
and the dippu dippu is bad in multiple layers...
a very folkish tune supported by pretty bad lyrics... atleast the first few lines...
and the visuals on screen with katchi kodi uniforms... disaster...
but for me, B-to the-A-to the-B-to the-A is thalaivar intro...
the best one can get... the guitar riffs were haunting..
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29th August 2013, 05:08 PM
#544
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Apart from Rajini and Kamal, its MSV, Kanadasan and KB who have to be talked about. The allignement in thought between the 3 has resulted in producing this song. The 2 characters are there in the song lyrics, where Kamal runs behind materialistic things and Rajini takes the chair of the Master with wine. The song suituation also stresses on abondaning ones duty ... that really did not go well with Rajini resulting in this song. It sounds quite simple while reading the few lines, but the explanation that resulted in development and finaly meeting an accordance is a gem found by these 3 gentlemen. And as SoftSword (how are you ?) has said, the whole attire of Rajini, esp. the shoulder movements punches the lines/words when ever necessary. On the whole a song to cherish in which ever way its looked at. Even the movie goes on to explain the attachement and deattachement thru the 3 charater, giving the truthful repenting climax that cannot be avoided.
Baba - it has many ifs and if nots, leading a straight path to the drains. And thats on the cover. As we all know never judge a book by its cover. What baba has in it are the realms of life, simply put as the needs of life (a bit like Maslow's Pyramid of needs), fulfilling which you have the insight to achieve the most. Without touching the Baba encounter as it complicates even more the complications, the 3 phases of life talked about in Dipu Dipu song is just the trailer of the next 150 mins, where the implication of human desire on materialistic things are showcased. You start with not knowing what (baby - the kite episode), then you get dependent or influenced & confused (kid - kite episode, but this time quite specific), then money (young man 1 - "MirandaCan-kick-girl-save" episode), women (young man 2 - Market Nilambari), housing (young man 3 - Nambiar's request), reproduction or give life to (middle age and its fruit - saving Japanese + marriage). Now comes the ultimate question - Known is a drop, unknown is an oceane - the choice of the unknown is told in the commericiale climax with the turban and the knife - I allow you to look at Road not Taken suituation. And ofcoarse there are several references to chakras. The movie introduces it to us, but where they failed is to educate the audience where these chakras are referenced at, resulting in the "Manisha-exercise-Rajini-chakra-list" episode seeming to be a long punch dialogue.
For info : the whole kite episode are the first 2 pages from "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Paramhansa Yogananda – copyrighted material is available for free on internet. Basially many things told in the naration in this autobiography follows as a shadow throughout the film.
But here, one should not confuse with Naan Kadavul / Anbe Sivam. These 3 movies share a indepth sight on the unknown supermo (interpreted by the creator's belief, knowledge & understanding) where Baba is +1 giving a positive angle on the path to be taken, Anbe Sivam 0, does not dare to take a stand but gives clue that one for all - all for one, and Naan Kadavul -1, draws in all the dark shades of Gods and Demi gods but emphasing on the cosmic concepts under backdrop of an imaginary 7th world of Jeyamohan.
Lets not embark there for the moment. Lets explore it little by litte while correct subjects are brought into discussion.
The above is entirely my POV.
Fanboy Comment (the fanboy in me has been poping out since I started writing this ... LoL) : BABA Rap => Ulitimate, tharu maru. (that should calm him now)
Last edited by mappi; 29th August 2013 at 05:21 PM.
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29th August 2013, 06:24 PM
#545
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Originally Posted by
mappi
Known is a drop, unknown is an ocean
.. he who knows him self knows all 
who ever wrote these lines is simply talking about self realisation in a simple way, but one has to "Experience" it to understand it!
Om Namaste astu Bhagavan Vishveshvaraya Mahadevaya Triambakaya Tripurantakaya Trikalagni kalaya kalagnirudraya Neelakanthaya Mrutyunjayaya Sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya Shriman Mahadevaya Namah Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye
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29th August 2013, 07:56 PM
#546
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Originally Posted by
PARAMASHIVAN
Glad ARR is still using SPB for all his Albums relating to SS!
Seems he waited for 1 year for SPB to compose this
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29th August 2013, 08:28 PM
#547
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Originally Posted by
SoftSword
super post on sivasambo maappi... perfect for thalaivars look...
the extra badass look swallowed kamals extra charming look..
and the dippu dippu is bad in multiple layers...
a very folkish tune supported by pretty bad lyrics... atleast the first few lines...
and the visuals on screen with katchi kodi uniforms... disaster...
but for me, B-to the-A-to the-B-to the-A is thalaivar intro...
the best one can get... the guitar riffs were haunting..
Car stereola ithu ellam chumma athirum boss.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice; in practice there is
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29th August 2013, 08:38 PM
#548
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manitha un jenmaththil ennaLum nannaaLaam
marunaaLai eNNathae, ennaLum ponnaaLaam
pallaakkai thookkaathe, pallaakkil neeyeru
unnaayuL thoNNooru, ennaLum pathinaaru
eppaathai pOnaalum inbatthai thaLLaathe
kallai nee thindraalum jerikkinra naaLinru
kaalangaL pOnaalO thinraathe enbaargaL
ah mathuvundu
peN undu
sOr undu
sugam undu
manam kondu endraale
sorgatthil idamundu..
thalivar itha padichi follow pannittu..... padam mudinjavudane..... directa hospital admit pannitaanga....(1979 episode)
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice; in practice there is
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29th August 2013, 08:43 PM
#549
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Originally Posted by
Avadi to America
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thalivar itha padichi follow pannittu..... padam mudinjavudane..... directa hospital admit pannitaanga....(1979 episode)
What episdoe? Actress latha ??
Om Namaste astu Bhagavan Vishveshvaraya Mahadevaya Triambakaya Tripurantakaya Trikalagni kalaya kalagnirudraya Neelakanthaya Mrutyunjayaya Sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya Shriman Mahadevaya Namah Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye
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29th August 2013, 09:41 PM
#550
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Originally Posted by
PARAMASHIVAN
What episdoe? Actress latha ??

I'm taking short break from HUB.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice; in practice there is
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