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19th October 2013, 10:47 PM
#3781
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He composed the VK songs in the break between Kaaki Chatthai and the next film! Such superb songs too. I recalled what Gangai Amaran once said on TV, "Summa irundha nerathile naanga suma irundhadhu illai."
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19th October 2013 10:47 PM
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20th October 2013, 10:11 PM
#3782
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Originally Posted by
Chelian
I believe IR's standard of appreciating music is very high. that's the reason he would praise MSV's work. and at the same time silent about the current MDs work.
experts can correct me. my personal opinion reading between lines or my interpretation of what IR say. IR once mentioned in bhanumatihi interview asked a question to her that "you are the one who introduced tk ramamoorthy". also some of the songs IR himself mentioned and style of music (those counter melodies) are of style of TKR. once i read the news of IR mentioning. I searched and got the TKR songs. those violins are so relaxing the way melody is used. also then wi'keyd TKR and found that he was "the violonist" who arranges and also performs while in association with MSV. even thought his associaton was short period but the tunes which came during TKR period either during MSV association or TKR solo (only few) are "the ones" i personally liked. anything with MSV standalone is not of my liking. again it is just my personal opinion (not a MSV hater). as a casual listener this is what i could notice. however MSV was successfull after TKR left but still those songs "lack" melody in comparision with association with TKR.
Having said this i personally feed IR mention of MSV still i think he internally gets inspired from MSV-TKR period or more specifically TKR.
I m not sure how other IR fans beleive.
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20th October 2013, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
irfan123
experts can correct me. my personal opinion reading between lines or my interpretation of what IR say. IR once mentioned in bhanumatihi interview asked a question to her that "you are the one who introduced tk ramamoorthy". also some of the songs IR himself mentioned and style of music (those counter melodies) are of style of TKR. once i read the news of IR mentioning. I searched and got the TKR songs. those violins are so relaxing the way melody is used. also then wi'keyd TKR and found that he was "the violonist" who arranges and also performs while in association with MSV. even thought his associaton was short period but the tunes which came during TKR period either during MSV association or TKR solo (only few) are "the ones" i personally liked. anything with MSV standalone is not of my liking. again it is just my personal opinion (not a MSV hater). as a casual listener this is what i could notice. however MSV was successfull after TKR left but still those songs "lack" melody in comparision with association with TKR.
Having said this i personally feed IR mention of MSV still i think he internally gets inspired from MSV-TKR period or more specifically TKR.
I m not sure how other IR fans beleive.
♫ விஸ்வநாதன் சாரோடு ராமமூர்த்தி சாரை நீங்கதானே சேர்த்தது?
பானுமதி: ஆமா, அதே படத்துலதான்.
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21st October 2013, 08:38 PM
#3784
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Originally Posted by
irfan123
experts can correct me. my personal opinion reading between lines or my interpretation of what IR say. IR once mentioned in bhanumatihi interview asked a question to her that "you are the one who introduced tk ramamoorthy". also some of the songs IR himself mentioned and style of music (those counter melodies) are of style of TKR. once i read the news of IR mentioning. I searched and got the TKR songs. those violins are so relaxing the way melody is used. also then wi'keyd TKR and found that he was "the violonist" who arranges and also performs while in association with MSV. even thought his associaton was short period but the tunes which came during TKR period either during MSV association or TKR solo (only few) are "the ones" i personally liked. anything with MSV standalone is not of my liking. again it is just my personal opinion (not a MSV hater). as a casual listener this is what i could notice. however MSV was successfull after TKR left but still those songs "lack" melody in comparision with association with TKR.
Having said this i personally feed IR mention of MSV still i think he internally gets inspired from MSV-TKR period or more specifically TKR.
I m not sure how other IR fans beleive.
During the MSV felicitation function, IR had said that MSV's music was what he heard during his childhood and that that is what inspired him to explore his interests in music. Chronologically, that probably does coincide with the Vishwanathan-Ramamurthy period. My favourite song of the pre Ilayaraja period is Ninaipadhellam Nadanthuvithal and that is also MSV-TKR. Having said that, IR did collaborate with MSV for Mella Thirandhadhu Kadhavu and according to Sundarrajan (and IR being present in the interview did not contradict him), MSV wrote all the melodies and IR did the orchestration. Thedum Kanparvai is a very beautiful melody; I think MSV's arrangements did not always do justice to his melodies rather than his melodies by themselves not being good. I think the melodies on Puthiya Paravai are very good, it's just the orchestration that sounds cliched to me (who has obviously been pampered by IR). So I think IR has a lot of respect for MSV in his individual capacity also. In one of the NEP behind the scenes clips, IR tells GVM that KVM and MSV are trained, whereas he's not!
EDIT: Oops, Puthiya Paravai is MSV-TKR anyway. Still, even MSV solo there are some other good scores I can recall like Aboorva Ragangal, Thanga Padhakam.
Last edited by crimson king; 21st October 2013 at 09:22 PM.
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21st October 2013, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
crimson king
During the MSV felicitation function, IR had said that MSV's music was what he heard during his childhood and that that is what inspired him to explore his interests in music. Chronologically, that probably does coincide with the Vishwanathan-Ramamurthy period. My favourite song of the pre Ilayaraja period is Ninaipadhellam Nadanthuvithal and that is also MSV-TKR. Having said that, IR did collaborate with MSV for Mella Thirandhadhu Kadhavu and according to Sundarrajan (and IR being present in the interview did not contradict him), MSV wrote all the melodies and IR did the orchestration. Thedum Kanparvai is a very beautiful melody; I think MSV's arrangements did not always do justice to his melodies rather than his melodies by themselves not being good. I think the melodies on Puthiya Paravai are very good, it's just the orchestration that sounds cliched to me (who has obviously been pampered by IR). So I think IR has a lot of respect for MSV in his individual capacity also. In one of the NEP behind the scenes clips, IR tells GVM that KVM and MSV are trained, whereas he's not!
ok. yes. "ninaipathellam" and "manithan yenpavan" are gems. the soothing meloday and the voice..is it am raja ? not sure.
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21st October 2013, 08:52 PM
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23rd October 2013, 12:33 AM
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Fantastic posts by crimson king. I am reminded of our veteran hubber Kiru saying musiciams need to EARN the appreciation from IR by displaying their true mastery of the art. Vasishtar vaayAl Bramma Rishi pattam vAnga munaiya vEndum iLaiya isai kalaignyargaL.
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23rd October 2013, 03:40 AM
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NEETHANE EN PONVASANTHAM glorifyingly reviewed by Allaboutjazz.com !
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/arti...9#.Umb1p1MuegR
IR's output is considered and compared with those of Pat Metheny's work with pianist Lyle Mays, the classic Gil Evans, Oliver Nelson instrumentation.
and the tempo of Tom Petty !!
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23rd October 2013, 08:03 AM
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Why does first of all IR need to praise or appreciate.. No creativity, rehashed tunes from western album is that what we get from present day composers. and to add, please read his biography "பால் நிலா பாதை". The book mentions how much praise, devotion and respect he has towards MSV sir, Noushad, SPB and hungary composer(I forgot his name)..
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23rd October 2013, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by
thumburu
Fantastic posts by crimson king. I am reminded of our veteran hubber Kiru saying musiciams need to EARN the appreciation from IR by displaying their true mastery of the art. Vasishtar vaayAl Bramma Rishi pattam vAnga munaiya vEndum iLaiya isai kalaignyargaL.
He is hard to please and a disciplinarian and this tends to rub film industry people the wrong way. It is so ironic that we complain about people being late all the time in this country and of the apathy to quality and the living legend who understands the importance of both punctuality and perfection is labelled egoistic for that reason.
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