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[Mohan kumar.]

Rajni and Kamal are different from Ajith and Vijay. Rajni and Kamal have following beyond their fan base. A rajni movie or a kamal movie easily becomes a talking point at homes. Vijay and Ajith are more in lines with Vijayakanth, a niche fan following - of course much larger than Vijayakanth. Rajni and Kamal has long before became a cultural entity of Tamil nadu, while Ajith and Vijay are just movie stars with a large fan following. Apart from different factors, this is also because of their acting ability. You need skill to do get into household by doing MMKR,Thillu mullu, Sathi leelavathi, Thevar magan, Mannan, Muthu (I dont think wither Vijay or Ajith can do Muthu/Mannan from Rajni's filmography, let alone a thillu mullu/Johnny/ Mullum Malarum).

Both of them want to be Rajni. Rajni can do comedy, romance, drama between a matter of few scenes without any strong script and still can convince general audience and keep them hooked. Can Ajith and Vijay do it? If they cant, they have to be satisfied with the large niche fan following they have. Forget about becoming Rajni/Kamal.

Completely disagree with these points... They might be true if we think in the shoes of people in mid-thirties to mid-fifties now.. I dont think a SS movie gets more attention in social media than a Vijay or Ajith movie now.. Exposure in the social media is the need of the hour & it is the state-of-the-art tool to measure the actor's support & , not the talking points at home..

Its not necessary for Ajith or Vijay to do Mannan or Thevar Magan now.. Acting under good & talented directors is more than enough & those directors wont need Mannan or Thevar Magan script to reach all. They know the current audience pulse than any of us here..

No actor can make a film success on his own but a director can.. Only thing they(Vj & Aj) have to do is select good directors & scripts in which they have failed many times recently.. No need to care about the title SS which may or may not retain its current significance( like MGR's or Sivaji title) considering India's massive demographic advantage.. They & we can believe in the title 'Thala' & 'Thalapathy' which might become more powerful than SS.

[Saai]

I dont think a SS movie gets more attention in social media than a Vijay or Ajith movie now..

If you think negative publicity also as a publicity, then yes :P - that even powerstar gets these days.

Its not necessary for Ajith or Vijay to do Mannan or Thevar Magan now.. Acting under good & talented directors is more than enough & those directors wont need Mannan or Thevar Magan script to reach all. They know the current audience pulse than any of us here..

I'm just saying, its difficult for them, even if they try. They are limited as actors.

No actor can make a film success on his own but a director can..

thats the point - rajni can make even guru shishyan look good.

They & we can believe in the title 'Thala' & 'Thalapathy' which might become more powerful than SS.

Again - they haven't proved anything to be there yet - neither in talent, nor in reach. Rajni and Kamal are Indian superstars when they were 40. Ajith and Vijay are unknown entities anywhere north of Arakkonam. Even within TN, they only have that niche fan base.

[Mohan kumar.]

If you think negative publicity also as a publicity, then yes :P - that even powerstar gets these days.



I'm just saying, its difficult for them, even if they try. They are limited as actors.



thats the point - rajni can make even guru shishyan look good.



Again - they haven't proved anything to be there yet - neither in talent, nor in reach. Rajni and Kamal are Indian superstars when they were 40. Ajith and Vijay are unknown entities anywhere north of Arakkonam. Even within TN, they only have that niche fan base.

U again got wrong.. Its not sports(where history is valued) to compare each & every aspect,.. And the title SS was not given based on the no of national or any awards he got & so dont relate this completely with his acting. If you need proofs to value a title, then titles like 'Ulaganayagan' 'Nadigar Thilagam' should have made 'SS' a needle in the haystack.
The title SS has huge value just because of the mass following he has & not the other way. So, the mass following makes the title to be valued & helps to hog the limelight.. As the day passes the title 'SS' will keep on losing the followers and the followers will add on for the other two & so their value.

Good Entertainers get more following than good actors. So, If you are not able to get or feel the entertainment in Vj or Aj movies does not mean they are not capable to attract mass following.. They dont need hardcore SS fans to follow; their focus will be only on the current generation who will give rich dividends later.

[Adox]

As the day passes the title 'SS' will keep on losing the followers and the followers will add on for the other two & so their value.

Good Entertainers get more following than good actors. So, If you are not able to get or feel the entertainment in Vj or Aj movies does not mean they are not capable to attract mass following.. They dont need hardcore SS fans to follow; their focus will be only on the current generation who will give rich dividends later.

Of course they are capable of attracting a big fan following ... no one denies that. They sure have a niche market

But we've been talking predictions ..... Who knows what will happen in future ? Lets talk about what we see now. As of today, neither of them can hold a candle to the SS .. even combined. And they know it as well.

[Saai]

U again got wrong.. Its not sports(where history is valued) to compare each & every aspect,.. And the title SS was not given based on the no of national or any awards he got & so dont relate this completely with his acting. If you need proofs to value a title, then titles like 'Ulaganayagan' 'Nadigar Thilagam' should have made 'SS' a needle in the haystack.
The title SS has huge value just because of the mass following he has & not the other way. So, the mass following makes the title to be valued & helps to hog the limelight.. As the day passes the title 'SS' will keep on losing the followers and the followers will add on for the other two & so their value.

Good Entertainers get more following than good actors. So, If you are not able to get or feel the entertainment in Vj or Aj movies does not mean they are not capable to attract mass following.. They dont need hardcore SS fans to follow; their focus will be only on the current generation who will give rich dividends later.

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My point is very simple: Rajni is able to transcend beyond his fan following because of his acting ability. Ajith and Vijay doesnt click well with all sections of audience because they are seriously challenged in terms of acting ability - even simple things like dialogue delivery. You don't have to be a kamal haasan in your ability. But you are no where near to even Rajni kanth also in terms of your ability. Rajni dint become a huge star just by flicking cigars!!!

As already told, Ajith and Vijay are non-entities anywhere north of Arakkonam, and I really doubt they will become a national icon like rajni or kamal.

[Russelltgw]

So Surya will become a national icon??

[CEDYBLUE]

As already told, Ajith and Vijay are non-entities anywhere north of Arakkonam, and I really doubt they will become a national icon like rajni or kamal.

By and large, you have a good point. Rajni was not able to match the adulation/worship that MGR had and similarly the next generation of hopefuls may find it tough to reach or surpass the peaks of the superstar. Good point.

But your Arakkonam railway station and powerstar taunts' are completely unnecessary. Superstar brand does not need to get this desperate to prove his unquestionable reach and impact.

He has been the KING of tamil cinema for the last two decades. That is a fact. Would the next generation hopefuls take his legacy forward? Only time will tell. If you chose to say 'NO' rightaway, that's your choice. But chances are there that you might be proven wrong.

My point is very simple: Rajni is able to transcend beyond his fan following because of his acting ability. Ajith and Vijay doesnt click well with all sections of audience because they are seriously challenged in terms of acting ability - even simple things like dialogue delivery. You don't have to be a kamal haasan in your ability.

Dialogue delivery and acting skills are very very subjective and they need not be the golden/common rule for all people entertainment. What is tremendous dialogue delivery for you could be noise pollution for someone else. What is superior acting skills for you may be seen as a ludicrous overacting by others. Quite possible.

While you have put Superstar's acting and dialogue delivery skills above Vijay/Ajith, you have carefully chosen to stay clear of Kamal Hassan. Afterall, you are talking about acting skills and lot of people in the previous generation consider Ulaganayagan to be way ahead. What is surprising to me here is, if Rajni (who according to you had less acting skills than Kamal Hassan who was his major competitor amongst his generation), can still emerge as the numero uno entertainer, why is that you think it is impossible for the likes of Vijay/Ajith with their 'inferior' acting skills (compared to SS, according to you), to reach the top?

But you are no where near to even Rajni kanth also in terms of your ability. Rajni dint become a huge star just by flicking cigars!!!

SS made his mark as an actor with masterful performances in 6TO60, Mullum Malarum, etc., But he rose to be a star through his style quotient including flicking cigars. It is his 'style' that created magic well complemented by his acting skills/dialogue delivery, which in any case according to you was inferior to Kamal Hassan.

The next generation are showing good signs to carry forward the legacy of entertainment-cinema made famous by Rajnikanth. They have their own fanbases which are largely niche with increasing penetrations among the neutral/family audiences. Vijay is a decent draw among family audience and so is Surya.

It would have taken a while for MGR fans to acknowledge the rise of Superstar. I am sure they would have resorted to South-Vellore / East-Nagapattinam kinda comments. But that did not stop Rajni from being the next-big brand. Tamil Cinema needed a next-generation superstar to take MGR's legacy forward. Life eventually moves on.

To be honest, this whole Rajni Vs Vijay/Ajith discussions are not going to take us any where. As Billu has rightly said, we will only resort to predictions/predictions/predictions to describe how long SS is going to continue acting or how effectively the next-generation would fill SS's shoes.

Let's hope one of our niche-only actors or both of them take the legacy forward. It is good for Tamil Cinema and its ever growing/widening market.

[evmoikivohoge]

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As already told, Ajith and Vijay are non-entities anywhere north of Arakkonam, and I really doubt they will become a national icon like rajni or kamal.

Before kolaveri song, nobody knows Dhanush. but today Dhanush is a India icon. so things will change in future. and yeah, Rajini and Kamal did more number of films than Ajith and Vijay. so Rajini and Kamal became Indian popular icons. but it is not necessary to act in bollywood to become next superstar. Did MGR and Sivaji act in bollywood ?

[Mohan kumar.]

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My point is very simple: Rajni is able to transcend beyond his fan following because of his acting ability. Ajith and Vijay doesnt click well with all sections of audience because they are seriously challenged in terms of acting ability - even simple things like dialogue delivery. You don't have to be a kamal haasan in your ability. But you are no where near to even Rajni kanth also in terms of your ability. Rajni dint become a huge star just by flicking cigars!!!

As already told, Ajith and Vijay are non-entities anywhere north of Arakkonam, and I really doubt they will become a national icon like rajni or kamal.

Insane thought.. I feel dialogue delivery is the most important skill for one to be established as a mass actor which they both doing well in their own ways.. If you are a hardcore SS supporter, please speak of his ability, talents & other positives. Don't try to degrade others as you know everything about acting & your opinion wont go wrong.. Are u the mentor of Maniratnam or Shankar or ARM to generalize an actor's potential? Even they wont do this cheap act..

[ajaybaskar]

Rajni is not an SS today because of his 6to60 or Mullum Malarum. Its because of his Baashas and Padayappas. MGR was not known for his acting skills. Less said about his facial expressions and dialogue delivery, the better it is. But he was still a great crowd puller and had a better reach among the masses. Rajni was slightly better in acting but after a period, he too went into a shell and that has helped him to reach the place where he is now.

Vijay and Ajith and Surya still have time to their side.

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