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5th July 2014, 10:00 AM
#3221
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Originally Posted by
bill4u
Of course they are capable of attracting a big fan following ... no one denies that. They sure have a niche market
But we've been talking predictions ..... Who knows what will happen in future ? Lets talk about what we see now. As of today, neither of them can hold a candle to the SS .. even combined. And they know it as well.
Very good.. Is this your prediction or dream? I think you cant stop them from aiming high..
" The secret of life is to fall seven times & get up eight times"
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5th July 2014 10:00 AM
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5th July 2014, 11:43 AM
#3222
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Originally Posted by
Mohan kumar.
Insane thought.. I feel dialogue delivery is the most important skill for one to be established as a mass actor which they both doing well in their own ways.. If you are a hardcore SS supporter, please speak of his ability, talents & other positives. Don't try to degrade others as you know everything about acting & your opinion wont go wrong.. Are u the mentor of Maniratnam or Shankar or ARM to generalize an actor's potential? Even they wont do this cheap act..
Saai is just stating his opinion. If you don't agree, so be it. One doesn't have to be a mentor of Maniratnam or Shankar to judge the potential of *any* current generation actor.
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5th July 2014, 12:34 PM
#3223
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Originally Posted by
littlemaster1982
Saai is just stating his opinion. If you don't agree, so be it. One doesn't have to be a mentor of Maniratnam or Shankar to judge the potential of *any* current generation actor.
Of course, anyone can judge with their confined knowledge or affinity, but it does not look good to generalize or write-off others esp actors of their Calibre.. How many of us will agree Saai's statement 'They are nowhere near to Rajni kanth in terms of ability'?..
I didnt mean to say only Maniratnam, Shankar etc. have rights to generalize someone. My point is they won't do it despite their sound expertise in the field ..
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5th July 2014, 01:22 PM
#3224
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Originally Posted by
Mohan kumar.
How many of us will agree Saai's statement 'They are nowhere near to Rajni kanth in terms of ability'?..
idhukaga enna census-a edukka midiyin- before telling opinions......adhaaan padatha paathale therdhee!!!
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5th July 2014, 03:00 PM
#3225
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Excluding 30 +, how many Rajini and Kamal supporters have become so for actors talent ? These days 80% of young SS and Kamal supporters are like "Sachin ah eppdi yaarunu Sharapova ketkalam case thaan". They are afraid of talking against SS and Kamal Hassan because they dont know the actors background/career details to defend their points. They just say they are legends fan/follower thinking that their reputation will be high and they dont want to be in minority side. Same with Sachin/IR/ARR/Manirathnam. There are exceptions also but very few. They always say I am Vijay/Ajith/Dhanush/Simbu fan but I like Rajini and Kamal. They go for bulk booking First day shows just to say in office naa Kochadayaan paathutaen. FDFS irundha mariyaadhayae poiruchu.
Rajini and Kamal reached everywhere because of their yesteryear successes/fans which carried them to current generation. That's where Captain,Satyraj,karthich all failed.If script/content/quality/skills has a role in it, I dont find any one good reason for Rajini's young( Under 30) fan following. Nothing against Rajini skills but he has not portrayed them to current generation.
Vijay and Ajith have also earned that duo tag. If they are going to be in industry for next 10 years they will also become legends irrespective of content and quality of their work and easily gets the reception what Rajini and Kamal gets these days. Young generation will go for them and we oldies by then will go for their movies for the reason "namma kaalathu top actors da". I am sure they can be in industry for next 10 years considering the current fan following.
Rajini's box office records can be breached only after he retires and audience find an alternative for him.
Konjam kandraviyaana logic thaan but adhaan nadakura maari enakku thonuthu.
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5th July 2014, 03:05 PM
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வினோத், இப்படியெல்லாம் நீ பேசி கேட்டதேல்லப்பா. 
Nevertheless, good post. 
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5th July 2014, 05:26 PM
#3227
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Originally Posted by
VinodKumar's
Excluding 30 +, how many Rajini and Kamal supporters have become so for actors talent ? These days 80% of young SS and Kamal supporters are like "Sachin ah eppdi yaarunu Sharapova ketkalam case thaan". They are afraid of talking against SS and Kamal Hassan because they dont know the actors background/career details to defend their points.
Ajithum Vijayum urypadiya irundha why are young guys becoming Rajni and Kamal fans?

Originally Posted by
VinodKumar's
Rajini and Kamal reached everywhere because of their yesteryear successes/fans which carried them to current generation.
I am Ilayaraja fan and I come from Rahman generation. None of the Raja fans forced/influenced me. People like someone because they are good.

Originally Posted by
VinodKumar's
Vijay and Ajith have also earned that duo tag. If they are going to be in industry for next 10 years they will also become legends irrespective of content and quality of their work and easily gets the reception what Rajini and Kamal gets these days. Young generation will go for them and we oldies by then will go for their movies for the reason "namma kaalathu top actors da".
aaha motham, Ajith and Vijay will not earn that whatever tag you wish by themselves - evanavadhu retire aaganum, andha edathula okaaranum 

Originally Posted by
VinodKumar's
Rajini's box office records can be breached only after he retires and audience find an alternative for him.
idhenna CM posta - to compulsarily fill the post with someone after someone retires. After Rahman, there is no unanimous number one in music industry. Everyone from gv prakash to anirudh to iman to yuvan to santhosh narayan scores hits. Same way, after rajni and kamal, it wont be a duo-logic as these guys were not good enough to become one like that. It might become a bunch of satyaraj, prabhu, vijayakanth etc, instead of two alpha guys leading the pack.
Last edited by Saai; 5th July 2014 at 05:28 PM.
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5th July 2014, 05:47 PM
#3228
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Originally Posted by
VinodKumar's
Excluding 30 +, how many Rajini and Kamal supporters have become so for actors talent ? These days 80% of young SS and Kamal supporters are like "Sachin ah eppdi yaarunu Sharapova ketkalam case thaan". They are afraid of talking against SS and Kamal Hassan because they dont know the actors background/career details to defend their points. They just say they are legends fan/follower thinking that their reputation will be high and they dont want to be in minority side. Same with Sachin/IR/ARR/Manirathnam. There are exceptions also but very few. They always say I am Vijay/Ajith/Dhanush/Simbu fan but I like Rajini and Kamal. They go for bulk booking First day shows just to say in office naa Kochadayaan paathutaen. FDFS irundha mariyaadhayae poiruchu.
Rajini and Kamal reached everywhere because of their yesteryear successes/fans which carried them to current generation. That's where Captain,Satyraj,karthich all failed.If script/content/quality/skills has a role in it, I dont find any one good reason for Rajini's young( Under 30) fan following. Nothing against Rajini skills but he has not portrayed them to current generation.
Vijay and Ajith have also earned that duo tag. If they are going to be in industry for next 10 years they will also become legends irrespective of content and quality of their work and easily gets the reception what Rajini and Kamal gets these days. Young generation will go for them and we oldies by then will go for their movies for the reason "namma kaalathu top actors da". I am sure they can be in industry for next 10 years considering the current fan following.
Rajini's box office records can be breached only after he retires and audience find an alternative for him.
Konjam kandraviyaana logic thaan but adhaan nadakura maari enakku thonuthu.
Your logic of being afraid of talking against SS or Kamal even if applicable in TN does not explain all ...
Rajini's reach is very real. There's something people like in him ... I was pretty surprised a guy in his early 30's from up North (UP Hindi belt) telling me that he's a huge Rajini Fan. Going by your logic, Endiran should have tanked in the North - the land of Big B since people there have no necessity to patronize Rajini movies nor do they have any Mullum-Malarum or baasha (baasha was originally a Big B movie) background - but it was top draw in Bollywood giving all others big stars like sharuk or salman a run for their money. Even in the US, the hindi version had an awesome run. They all have a massive respect for our SS.
I'm yet to see a path breaking movie from either of them that is universally applauded by all regardless of their niche fan base. While I dont wish to argue any further about Ajith and Vijay wrt. to SS, I do think its a formidable goal for either to rival or replace SS.
Last edited by bill4u; 5th July 2014 at 06:22 PM.
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5th July 2014, 06:47 PM
#3229
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Originally Posted by
Raajjaa
நிலைமை இப்படி இருக்க இவர்கள் Retire ஆனால் தான் உச்சத்துக்கு போக முடியுமாம். கொடுமைடா சாமி.

that really cracked me up ...
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5th July 2014, 08:28 PM
#3230
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Ajithum Vijayum urypadiya irundha why are young guys becoming Rajni and Kamal fans?
I said they are not fans just show causing them as their fans.
aaha motham, Ajith and Vijay will not earn that whatever tag you wish by themselves - evanavadhu retire aaganum, andha edathula okaaranum
Irukarappa next-nu sonnavae thooki pudichitu varaanga idhula ippo aanalum othuka maataanga ... Whatever tag lam illa Super Star tag thaan !!! In Tamil Cinema nothing is worthier than that.
idhenna CM posta - to compulsarily fill the post with someone after someone retires.
Not necessarily. I meant to say he cant be beat in box office records when he is active.
Same way, after rajni and kamal, it wont be a duo-logic as these guys were not good enough to become one like that.
They are already. It doesn't matter whether you like it or not.
Last edited by VinodKumar's; 5th July 2014 at 08:33 PM.
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