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10th November 2014, 05:36 PM
#3581
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Billa 2 also had the Billa tag
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10th November 2014 05:36 PM
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10th November 2014, 05:41 PM
#3582
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Originally Posted by
Nawaaz
Arul, Despite flops Ajith manages good opening is really wonderful. No arguments on that.
Argument eh athu thaanea...
Also have to agree vijay/Rajini and even surya now has cushion of longer run because of family audience support though reviews are bad which Ajith lacks. Example would be mankatha which took tremendous opening but didnt have longer run (May be theme of movie would have not interested family/kid audiences. Not sure)
IMO, the most important factor for a long run is the content(with the theme) than the family audience. If family audience is the only key for long run then why some recent 100days movies did not collect the huge gross? On the Mankatha part, like you said the theme did not target kids/family audience.
Theaters in TN can manage say 1000shows/day. If its solo release , movie can manage 900 odd shows.
If its festive release, eg: Kaththi vs Poojai theaters can manage 700 + 300 shows right? Does it look a valid point?
Agreed. Arrambam too had a festive release. It released along with Pandiyanaadu and All in Alagu Raja.
Regarding opening, i think 1st 2 days if not 2 , first day purely depends on star power and wide release. So there is no point of review here . Agreed?
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I would say first 3 days and the wide release is directly proportional to star power.
முதல் அடியில் நடுங்க வேண்டும்.. மறு அடியில் அடங்க வேண்டும்.. மீண்டு வந்தால் மீண்டும் அடி.. மறுபடி மரண அடி!!!
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10th November 2014, 05:42 PM
#3583
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Originally Posted by
ArulprakasH
Nawaaz and Movie Buff...
We did not deny Alwar was a disaster in BO and opening. Even King looses some wars. But Asal and Aegan took a good opening irrespective of the mixed reviews(links given below). Most of us accept Ajith has given the highest number of flops, but still he enjoys a very good fan base. With that he is capable of giving good opening most of the times.
Aegan CBO
http://www.sify.com/movies/boxoffice...5&cid=13525926
Asal CBO
http://www.sify.com/movies/boxoffice...0&cid=13525926
Billa 2 was 2 hours so high number of shows.. OK... Even Arrambam had 900+ shows in the first four days. If there is a list of all top league actors movies and its selling price, we can discuss that too.
See all, this conversation started when people here claim 'King of Opening' is a conspiracy based on the Behindwoods data. Just I countered that. It was the title given by the trade.
Good one Arulprakash ji
Rajesh......
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10th November 2014, 05:49 PM
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Going back to the analysis on Gross per show, it should not be considered as a performance indicator unless all compared shows had equal number of seats and ticket price. Mayajaal has a seating capacity of 150-200 for each screen whereas the Satyam and Devi main screens can accomodate over 1K. Revenue generate from Mayajaal per show will be lesser than the revenue generated by other theaters. When gross per show is derived on number of shows, if there are many shows in smaller screens then it will take a hit.
Movies like Billa, Arrambam had many shows in Mayajaal. Because of this Gross per Show has come out less.
Let we see an example..
If we take full capacity of a Mayajaal show as 200, then Rs.24000 is the revenue per show(considering the ticket cost as 120). If it is Satyam then the amount is Rs.120000 (1000seats*120).
Total amount earned (1 Satyam Show + 1 Mayajal show) : Rs. 144000
Total Shows (1 Satyam Show + 1 Mayajal show) : 2
Gross per show : Rs. 122000
Consider a FDFS scenario where Mayajaal had 5 shows, total amount for 10 shows is (5*24000 = 12000) and Satyam had 1 show
Total amount earned(1 Satyam show + 5 Mayajaal shows) : Rs. 240000
Total shows(1 Satyam show + 5 Mayajaal shows) : 6
Gross per show : Rs. 40000
If it is other way around, Satyam had 5 shows and Mayajaal has 1 show, then take a look at the equation
Satyam (5*120000=600000) and Mayajaal (1*24000=24000)
Total amount earned(5 Satyam shows + 1 Mayajaal show) : Rs. 624000
Total shows(5 Satyam shows + 1 Mayajaal show) : 6
Gross per show : Rs. 104000
See the difference it can make.. for same number of shows, two extremely different gross per show numbers..
Edit Note : Added the above line
Gross per show cannot be taken as a yardstick unless the movies taken for comparison were released in the same set of screens.
Last edited by ArulprakasH; 10th November 2014 at 06:29 PM.
முதல் அடியில் நடுங்க வேண்டும்.. மறு அடியில் அடங்க வேண்டும்.. மீண்டு வந்தால் மீண்டும் அடி.. மறுபடி மரண அடி!!!
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10th November 2014, 06:04 PM
#3585
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Originally Posted by
Samajith
Simha,
Needless to say, going by the numbers of 1st day TN collection tweeted by Sreedhar pillai..
KATHTHI -
12.5 Cr
Thuppaki -
9.25 Cr
Aarambam -
8.75 Cr
Billa 2 -
7.6 Cr
Please do post on my behalf when #YennaiArindhaal releases... Thanks in advance...
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10th November 2014, 06:06 PM
#3586
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Wonderful arguments going on....
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10th November 2014, 06:09 PM
#3587
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Originally Posted by
ArulprakasH
Going back to the analysis on Gross per show, it should not be considered as a performance indicator unless all compared shows had equal number of seats and ticket price. Mayajaal has a seating capacity of 150-200 for each screen whereas the Satyam and Devi main screens can accomodate over 1K. Revenue generate from Mayajaal per show will be lesser than the revenue generated by other theaters. When gross per show is derived on number of shows, if there are many shows in smaller screens then it will take a hit.
Movies like Billa, Arrambam had many shows in Mayajaal. Because of this Gross per Show has come out less.
Let we see an example..
If we take full capacity of a Mayajaal show as 200, then Rs.24000 is the revenue per show(considering the ticket cost as 120). If it is Satyam then the amount is Rs.120000 (1000seats*120).
Total amount earned (1 Satyam Show + 1 Mayajal show) : Rs. 144000
Total Shows (1 Satyam Show + 1 Mayajal show) : 2
Gross per show : Rs. 122000
Consider a FDFS scenario where Mayajaal had 5 shows, total amount for 10 shows is (5*24000 = 12000) and Satyam had 1 show
Total amount earned(1 Satyam show + 5 Mayajaal shows) : Rs. 240000
Total shows(1 Satyam show + 5 Mayajaal shows) : 6
Gross per show : Rs. 40000
If it is other way around, Satyam had 5 shows and Mayajaal has 1 show, then take a look at the equation
Satyam (5*120000=600000) and Mayajaal (1*24000=24000)
Total amount earned(5 Satyam shows + 1 Mayajaal show) : Rs. 624000
Total shows(5 Satyam shows + 1 Mayajaal show) : 6
Gross per show : Rs. 104000
Gross per show cannot be taken as a yardstick unless the movies taken for comparison were released in the same set of screens.
AruLPrakasH-ji...you are being too kind and patient enough to explain these things....guess we had done this exercise long time back multiple number of times....but what to do they won't understand....
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10th November 2014, 06:34 PM
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Arul Anna
The first time I saw this "King Of Opening" used for Ajith was around the time Ji got released.I saw that in a Hindu article..He was in poor form,surrounded by flops and controversies at that time..why would someone call him KOP during that time??
The way I look at that tag is Ajith gets an opening because of him irrespective of the cast, crew etc most of the times..If he teams up with say a Shankar, do you guys think the opening will be anything like Nanban?
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10th November 2014, 06:35 PM
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Leo.. ithulaam perumaiya.. Illa Kadamai.. :P
முதல் அடியில் நடுங்க வேண்டும்.. மறு அடியில் அடங்க வேண்டும்.. மீண்டு வந்தால் மீண்டும் அடி.. மறுபடி மரண அடி!!!
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10th November 2014, 06:44 PM
#3590
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Originally Posted by
Samajith
Simha,
Needless to say, going by the numbers of 1st day TN collection tweeted by Sreedhar pillai..
KATHTHI -
12.5 Cr
Thuppaki -
9.25 Cr
Aarambam -
8.75 Cr
Billa 2 -
7.6 Cr
Again you are Wrong Dude
Billa after 30% Tax its 7.6C so Gross would be 10.9 So only KAthi beat that...
Arambam on Non Holiday Two days Prior to Diwali is 8.75..
Kathi,Thupaki,Arrambam are tax free so net equals to Gross as per Sreedhar Pillai
Right Equation would be
Endiran-11.5+
Mankatha - 7.7C(Pillai reported 6.5C with 15% Tax)
Billa2-10.9
Thupakki - 9.25
Arrambam-8.75
Kathi-12.5
Out of these Mankatha,Kathi & Thupaki were on Holiday...Stop worrying about SOLOs dude When You have Holiday/Festivals ....
Even before these Social media things Trade has named Ajith as Best opener after Rajini.
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