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Thread: UlagaNayagan KAMALHAASAN in ||"PAPANASAM"|| Directed by Jeethu Joseph

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    Its becos of UV's loss or Lingu's financial status, its not clear.

    http://www.newtamilcinema.com/papana...lease-stopped/
    உத்தமவில்லன் படம் வெளியான நேரத்தில் பைனான்ஸ் பிரச்சனை எழுந்ததல்லவா? அப்போது தயாரிப்பாளர் லிங்குசாமியின் கடனை ஈடு செய்யும் விதத்தில், கமல் அவரது சம்பளத்தை விட்டுக் கொடுத்து முப்பது கோடியில் ஒரு படத்தை எடுத்துத் தருவதாக எழுத்துபூர்வமாக அறிவித்தார்.
    And it seems the issue may stand sorted..

    https://twitter.com/Nn84Naganatha/st...85309628092416
    "#Papanasam it seems Kamal has agreed to do a film after #Thungavanam on 1st copy basis for thirupathibros..So formalities bending all clear."

    So i guess and hope, no ban etc will rise, and movie will release on said date without any fail...
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    Hopefully we can bank on the below tweet:

    Sitara Suresh ‏@SitaraSuresh 2 hours ago
    Please stop believing the rumours. It's official that we are coming out on the 3rd of July 2015!This is confirmed!Stay excited #Papanasam

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    After deliberations last night, distributors agreed to withdraw protest against #Papanasam release. #KamalHaasan's movie will be out 3 July.

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    தமிழ் சினிமா வியாபாரம் ஃமாபியாக்களிடம் இடம் பெயர்ந்து விட்டதாகவே தெரிகிறது .
    தமிழ் சினிமாவின் சாதனை நாயகனுக்கு இவர்கள் தொடர்ந்து கொடுத்து வரும் அவமரியாதையும் மிரட்டலும் சகிக்கவில்லை.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe View Post
    தமிழ் சினிமா வியாபாரம் ஃமாபியாக்களிடம் இடம் பெயர்ந்து விட்டதாகவே தெரிகிறது .
    தமிழ் சினிமாவின் சாதனை நாயகனுக்கு இவர்கள் தொடர்ந்து கொடுத்து வரும் அவமரியாதையும் மிரட்டலும் சகிக்கவில்லை.
    Yes - Cinema moving from Art to Business is still acceptable. But turning into maphia - unfortunate !
    Best of luck - dear Tamil Film Industry ! ! !

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    Behind the Scenes. Interesting.

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    Sreedhar Pillai:
    #Papanasam, on July 3, theatre booking in full swing. Running Time = 180 minutes (3 hrs), as per censor certificate.

    The length is 3 hours. As a thriller, will it sustain the attention of the viewer so long. Is Drishyam (Mal) also lengthy one?
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    Drishyam was 2 hrs 45 mins
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    Overall, ban announcement, postponement, uncertainity of release, happening repeatedly for ALL kamal films is surely a very very worrysome situation. But if one looks on individual case basis, question raises on other end too. in this case its kamal's.

    Even though we may say the distros/theater nexus are turning rowdy mafias, still they are pouring laksh and crores as advance payment, for all the biggies that is kamal/rajini/vijay/ajith/surya films. so they do have a stake. none of the biggies films releases to theaters on collection/dcr share basis. only MG basis is the practical happening of the day.

    Uttama villain initial issue was purely due to lingusamy and then itself there was an announcement that kamal's side agreed for a 30crorse small budget film to help lingu's financial case. this indirectly means kamal has some stake in the lingu's case. atleast thats what one can decipher, from the publicly available news sources. then kamal started thoongavanam and there was no news about that 30C movie. now, the distro/theater nexus force-pressed papanasam producers by announcing a verbal-ban for the film yesterday and it seems today morning, those gang were asked to meet kamal in thoongavanam sets in chennai and after a hour long discussion, its being decided that the 30C film will happen after thoongavanam and thus the soft-ban on PN stands lifted. So this info in a way means that kamal didnt consider the 30C movie unless knife was placed in his to be released film. so now whom to be reasoned for the ban, though we may say its unfair way to do this publicly instead of the distro nexus directly contacting the PN movie camp and explaining the issue.

    same goes to linga where singaravelan and co had boldly gone even to police and tn gvt eplaining his case and he still owes money from rockline but it seems rajni-nexus successfully fooled singaravelan of settling the money. and there were news that linga losses in other areas were silently settled.

    also, coming back to UV, the 1 and half day delay in release and uncertainity, surely made almost 8 crore loss of opening. but kamal didnt care to explain the reason to fans or public, unlike vishwaroopam issue. lingu was most careless and never cared to update fans on the issue (unlike the PN producers who promptly tweeted that there is NO change in release date. ) Also kamal, when asked about the tension fans underwent due to UV delay, said that it was just a temporary financial issue. so this in a way means that he is not worried about the money lost on opening or the uncontrollable mad tension we fans went through that day. i was along with karthi, sandiyar and other fans for the whole 1 and half day, in woodlands, and saw the tension of fans for the whole period.

    So i have decided that, i will not worry for any one sided news coming about delay / ban for kamal films. only when he responds/informs publicly t fans about a certain problem about release, like how he did for viswaroopam, will i take that issue, as a fan. becos its not black and white, grey areas are there at both sided. we fans whud not waste energy without a point
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    I feel mostly the analysis above is incorrect.

    It is true that details are very murky with so many players -- multiple layers of distributors and middle men along with theatre owners. Also it may not be fair to expect every piece of financial detail to be reveled to the fans/public. Kamal promising to do a 30 Cr film (it was initially stated in the press as a verbal promise but recently was reported as a written commitment) could have been made to ensure UV releases. It may have been the case (due to Lingu's reckless dealings including double selling -- exactly what is said about Lingaa (the law suit now in court)). But in order to get UV released, Kamal may have been the only person who could help -- and so, he might have offered a commitment in in the interest of UV release.

    There was frustration expressed (even in this very forum from people who claimed that they they were hard core fans) that KH is not mentioning the correct release date when it was getting repeatedly delayed. Actually, I believe KH was himself very frustrated but he had no control over it. The players were Lingusamy, Eros and others. VR was different - the problems were from multiple angles and political which had to be dealt with in a public way to mobilize public and fans in his favor. So that is why KH had to come out in public. He was the producer after all and not just on a first copy basis.

    Overall, movie making is a very difficult process in India even for big stars. Add to that, the result of a movie is very unpredictable and impacts the next movie (possibly even subsequent movies) in a big way. So fans have to be understanding. In this climate, it is very easy to settle for a very predictable, mass masala movie where box office results have better odds (still no guarantees even with those also, Lingaa, Anjaan, Jilla etc. etc.). So in this environment, Kamal is the ONLY guy who is able to stand up and does films his way with themes he likes to make and not what buyers demand. That takes courage and conviction !

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