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18th November 2015, 11:59 PM
#2161
Senior Member
Regular Hubber
Just thought about Uttama Villain. Even with the mess that Kamal created in the Uttaman story with silly comedies, the movie turned to be a classic. If Kamal as a creator, did a better job in Uttaman episode, this movie would have become an eternal classic along with Apoorva Sagodarargal, Devar Magan, Mahanadhi, Hey Ram and Virumandi.
What do you guys say? Nevertheless Uttama Villain was very unique experience on Mortality.
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18th November 2015 11:59 PM
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19th November 2015, 12:13 AM
#2162
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Originally Posted by
cinema
Just thought about Uttama Villain. Even with the mess that Kamal created in the Uttaman story with silly comedies, the movie turned to be a classic. If Kamal as a creator, did a better job in Uttaman episode, this movie would have become an eternal classic along with Apoorva Sagodarargal, Devar Magan, Mahanadhi, Hey Ram and Virumandi.
What do you guys say? Nevertheless Uttama Villain was very unique experience on Mortality.
Agree...I would watch the movie countless number of times for the Manoranjan part alone. I thought Kamal overdid it with the episode in the car as it never really created an impact it should have partly owing to the fact that it was badly staged and acted. But even in that, it spoke about the intimate relationship that an actor shares with his chauffeur (which is how it is normally for any actor).
Last edited by Arvind Srinivasan; 19th November 2015 at 12:51 AM.
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19th November 2015, 12:55 AM
#2163
Junior Member
Senior Hubber
Originally Posted by
cinema
Just thought about Uttama Villain. Even with the mess that Kamal created in the Uttaman story with silly comedies, the movie turned to be a classic. If Kamal as a creator, did a better job in Uttaman episode, this movie would have become an eternal classic along with Apoorva Sagodarargal, Devar Magan, Mahanadhi, Hey Ram and Virumandi.
What do you guys say? Nevertheless Uttama Villain was very unique experience on Mortality.
Agreed. Collaborating with someone in the screenplay dept. to avoid some of this would be great. Also, Manoranjan could have been shown to be more flawed, which is really the case with most Actors. To me, he was not flawed at all, other than his supposed spending less time with his family. He is shown as another Uttaman. Unless you create a stark contrast, you don't get the needed bite from the screenplay.
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19th November 2015, 10:42 AM
#2164
Senior Member
Diamond Hubber
UV, the film can be divided into 3 parts.
The Main film, Manoranjan portion.
8th Century till Kaathalaam Kadavul mun portion.
The portion from where they plan a Naadagam and till climax.
In this, the 1st part is the most liked portion of the film, followed by 3rd part. 2 one is mega sothappal. It didnt create impact for most. But i somehow feel, there are something missing in 3rd part too. There is a dialog in papanasam "ஹீரோ முகத்த அடிக்கடி க்ளோசப்ல காட்டுனா தானே, அந்த chasing பரபரப்பு, ஆடியன்ஸுக்கும் தொத்தும்?!” similarly, when Uttaman & KarpagaValli & the minister Trio plans to kill Naaser and when the roles gets interchanged, the audience must feel எப்படி கொல்லுவாங்க but it happens very fast and the audiecene are left with no choice of watching the manoranjan portion there, reading letter and the very climax where he is taken to hospital.
Also, Naaser asking for சாகாவரம், he is not seen getting scared of the Astrologer's prediction of his கோர மரணம். So audience dont feel much for him and thus his longing for சாகாவரம் is not recieved by audience with much interest. Also, there is not a sudden strong motive for him to ask that when he is a bed after a stomach upset. Not only that, all the time, Uttaman had been cheating that he has a மந்திரம் for சாகாவரம், but he mentions only 3 ways, not மந்திரம். How will that satisfy Naaser?!
My feel is, if the 8th century has more scenes with multiple attempts of the Trio trying to finish off naser and it fails and finally they plan extensively and finish him in the final song, it wud hav been welcomed much. And there cud be lot of scope for comedy of errors in that process. Thus, there will be something trongly given for the audiecne to expect on what to look for, in the 8th century.
my 2 paise...
Last edited by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar; 19th November 2015 at 10:44 AM.
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19th November 2015, 11:54 AM
#2165
Senior Member
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There are few more questions and failed expectations..
Uttaman's role itself looks confused after watching the movie. If he is the king then what about those theyyam portions and the scenes where ppl thinks he died multiple times and he comes back? But there is a small clue for this. the small scene where the lady spy with naser comes and tells to naser that there is someone called Uttaman who escaped death 5 times(a la prahaladhan) and naser orders to bring him to his court. So all those uttaman a theyyam artist and he escaped death 5 times are imaginary stories which audience along with naser, mistakes as true story!
Pooja thinking uttaman is getting close to naser and planning to make use of him is a good idea! also, her finding out that uttaman is NOT a பயந்தாங்கொள்ளி, and revealing the same in that குகை scenes is superb one which worked great for me! the whole cave scene is superb but our ppl didnt seem to like it same time, the fact that uttaman is not the theyyam artist but king of neighbouring country, i feel it shud hav been esatblished openly to audience and be hidden only to naser camp... just showing a 'king pose' in the last end of the film for very short time (just few secs) is not at all enuf, one feels.
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20th November 2015, 04:55 AM
#2166
Senior Member
Veteran Hubber
Something to keep mind off the violence in the news last few days:
Guitar Prasanna performs 'Ilamai itho itho'!
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20th November 2015, 06:43 PM
#2167
Junior Member
Seasoned Hubber
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20th November 2015, 06:46 PM
#2168
Junior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Vikram looks much better with a beard as compared to his previous avatars ..
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20th November 2015, 10:27 PM
#2169
Originally Posted by
bill4u
they look the same age
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20th November 2015, 10:33 PM
#2170
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
There are few more questions and failed expectations..
Uttaman's role itself looks confused after watching the movie. If he is the king then what about those theyyam portions and the scenes where ppl thinks he died multiple times and he comes back? But there is a small clue for this. the small scene where the lady spy with naser comes and tells to naser that there is someone called Uttaman who escaped death 5 times(a la prahaladhan) and naser orders to bring him to his court. So all those uttaman a theyyam artist and he escaped death 5 times are imaginary stories which audience along with naser, mistakes as true story!
Pooja thinking uttaman is getting close to naser and planning to make use of him is a good idea! also, her finding out that uttaman is NOT a பயந்தாங்கொள்ளி, and revealing the same in that குகை scenes is superb one which worked great for me! the whole cave scene is superb but our ppl didnt seem to like it
same time, the fact that uttaman is not the theyyam artist but king of neighbouring country, i feel it shud hav been esatblished openly to audience and be hidden only to naser camp... just showing a 'king pose' in the last end of the film for very short time (just few secs) is not at all enuf, one feels.
the 5 times death cheating obviously is not imaginery na - theyyam arujunan nadagam where the snake charmer is also brought to the court - then vaiyapuri vouches for - ivan adichan - ivan sethan point...and u can see rajesh m selva there who is the ottran from the pandiyan kingdom who also later saves kamal from the drowning with his fishing net...which connects the before meeting nasser to after meeting nasser to be consistent - which means they were true . the song also explains why he didnt die in for each scenario right - as to the cobra biting 4 ppl before him and thus hving no poison left in its gland etc and the song clearly says - the reason why he survived will be known to 'pagutharivalar'
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