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8th June 2008, 10:33 PM
#311
you can not stop people claiming some facts, just like we do here.
everyone say vikram is a superstar, but for me he is not.
the reasons i gave when a similar argument was made.
. i say that a superhit movie of the hero conceals the failures of his films in BO.
2.leave sethu and kasi and any vikram film before 2001.
3.his first masala hit was dhill in 2001.
i will give his films thereafter with BO results , you decide the verdict.
1.gemini april 2002 superhit
2.samurai july 2002 failure
3.king sep 2002 failure
4. dhool jan 2003 superhit
5. kadhal sadugudu spril 2003 failure
6.sami may 2003 superhit
7. pithamagan diwali 2003 hit
8. arul pongal 2004 failure
9. anniyan june 2005 superhit
10 majaa diwali 2005 failure
11 bheema pongal 2008 failure
so its possible for him hang around in TFI as top star with one superhit in last 4.5 years,
is that possible for madhavan who gave atleast 3 hits like priya sagi(low budget),thambi,rendu or cameos in rang de basanti, guru with 4 or 5 failures.
but you know and i know that vikram is getting several times more than what madhavan gets.
this is how TFI works.
if vikram himself has this power(h has no solid back up in TFI except for his talents), you imagine the power of vijay and ajith who have more organised fan base and builty up a power centre.
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8th June 2008 10:33 PM
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8th June 2008, 11:03 PM
#312
Senior Member
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Ofcourse you are meaning only the Tamil cinema world or to a greater extent the South Indian cinema world . Whereasthe criteria differs in any part of the world
Originally Posted by
cinemalover
see in this competetive cinema world, the actor gives the biggest BO collections easily becomes number 1.
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8th June 2008, 11:18 PM
#313
no any cinema world, but in TFI they are immediately givendemi god status,
see my analysis on vikram above, heros are credited for succeesses coming out of team work, but dont take any influence on the failures of their films.
viajy gave continuously failure in 2001 and 2002, once tirumalai become a hit all his half a dozen failures are forgiven,
like wise ajith was without a hit for three years 2003,04,05 and how he is surviving as a top star.
what will happen to madhavan shaam srikanth arya if they do the same, they will be kicked out of TFI even if they dont give one hit a year.
dhanush survived after 5 or 6 failures, simbhu violates all logic and has the power to remove a director.
that editor magan has a PRO director brother who grabs any good family entertainer succeeds at tollywood.
vishal has a dozen producer/director at his hands/
thjese people's other side not known to any of their fans or general cinegoer,
their mistakes are hidden by thier rare success or created success.
only true cinema analyst knows well who's who?
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9th June 2008, 12:41 AM
#314
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Senior Hubber
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
MGR's populariy mostly lies about his personal and political image and not for his films. only sivaaji passed the test of time and still his movies are consumed...dont know what will happen in future.. i stongly hope kamal will be remembered many many years....
Sakala - I don't quite agree with your view... To say, Sivaji movies passed the test of time is correct... But to say that MGR movies hasn't is ignorance... Even today, in Chennai city, if you release a MGR movie side by side with any other 50's, 60's movie you could see how many crowds you will have for MGR movies... MGR's legion of fans is the most loyal/faithful you will ever see in TN...
And lastly, what do you mean "MGR popularity mostly lies about his personal/politcal image and not for his films?"
He gained unparalleled popularity thro' movies which he cleverly used/extended to build on his political ambitions...
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9th June 2008, 03:25 AM
#315
cinemalover,
can i be of any help to stop your vomiting?
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9th June 2008, 06:57 AM
#316
Senior Member
Diamond Hubber
Originally Posted by
Nerd
The bottomline is NOBODY will let out the actual figures, no matter what. It simply aint as easy as it may sound..
Cinemalover, please keep them coming, I for one is interested to read
yes, very interesting analysis from cinemalover .....waiting for more from you..........ofcourse, the viewpoints may vary, but still to see facts and figures in TF is always exciting bcos its never discolsed by any producer or hero or director..........
wud like you to analyse the audio market as well.........who is the undisputed king of audio sales in TFM and the market pull of current MDs.......or how much of a factor do u think music is today in terms of getting people to theaters
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Rahman's music is the ringtone on God's mobile phone
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9th June 2008, 09:41 AM
#317
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Diamond Hubber
Originally Posted by
joe
Originally Posted by
cinemalover
CM ran for 120 days houseful in more than 100screens and everyone know that.
Oru paanai sotrukku (so-called analysis) oru soRu patham
NDTV News reader maathiriyae sollraaru
It is very common knowledge that under the current circumstances no film will run for housefull for 100 days even in a single theater no matter how big the technical or the acting crew is.
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9th June 2008, 09:45 AM
#318
Senior Member
Diamond Hubber
Originally Posted by
Movie Cop
He gained unparalleled popularity thro' movies which he cleverly used/extended to build on his political ambitions...
moviecop, i meant to say that sivaaji movie amazes even today's youth becos there is an unimitable stuff called '
"sivaaji's acting" but MGr movies will find audience mostly from his loyal fan base, as you urself said. that doesnt mean me or you cannot tolerate an mgr film but he mainly did masala movies, but sivaaji truely added time proof content. When u do a light hearted stuff and u rock that time, that dont mean the movie will be lappedup by generations. thatswhy i said kamal movies will highly pass many generations becos of the rich content..
(eventho i say mgr movies are just masala, the content of masala and entertaining is much more quality that what u call as today's entertainer. but thats out of discussion now)
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9th June 2008, 12:49 PM
#319
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
Originally Posted by
joe
Originally Posted by
cinemalover
CM ran for 120 days houseful in more than 100screens and everyone know that.
Oru paanai sotrukku (
so-called anal-ysis) oru soRu patham
NDTV News reader maathiriyae sollraaru
This thread can aptly be renamed by the mods as "King Of Kaamedy - India's answer to Rupert Pupkin" thread or something...
Hub la sila peru anyayathukku veguliya irukkaainga
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9th June 2008, 12:54 PM
#320
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Originally Posted by
NOV
Originally Posted by
Devar Magan
cinemalover, some of your posts are blashphemous..
only some?
anyway:
the world is round
chinese is the most spoken language
all tamil girls are pretty
pencils are made of wood
india is worlds largest democracy
my dog is a cat
filter coffee originated in tamilnadu
nepal is one of the states of india
world oil price is skyrocketing
dasavatharam will be released on 13th June
chilly is red
when I smile I look like tom cruise
uppuma makes you fat
komatha enga kulamatha
general chakravarty led india against china
himesh has sung a tamil song
love is beautiful
Shakthi Prabha will be cutting a cake today
newspaper headlines are always on front page
worn out shoes are proof of used shoes
NOV
ஒரு ஆதிக்க நாயகன் சாதிக்க வந்தால் அடங்குதல் முறை தானோ..
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