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11th April 2008, 08:38 PM
#41
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Dear Sk,
feel everybody talks the same yet everybody feels what they say is different than others
What you said is correct , it is the same as the reality. We are all essentially "One" and the same awareness but feels different from "others". This is because of the fundamental problem of attachment to the body and mind.
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11th April 2008 08:38 PM
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12th April 2008, 09:19 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by
pradheep
I think Ramana Maharshi does not refer to the " I " as the EGO. The I-ness He talks about is the Subject of all perception, the eye behind all eyes, the Singular point of Awareness being aware of itSelf.
Dear Ak,
In His upadesha sara he makes it clear that
Ahami naasha bhaajyaham aham tayaa
Sphurathi Hrut Svayam parama poorna sat
When I-thought or Ego is destroyed, the pure I shines forth on its own as the Supreme and perfect (full) Existence.
The Truth we are all seeking is the "Pure Awareness", which is always behind everything. But the "I" thought (Ego) over-shadows it.
I agree of course, but in the paragraph that SP had quoted (to which you replied) , that 'I' was not the 'I'-thought, was it ? There I think it was indeed the Awareness 'I' that Sri Ramana was talking about.
Love and Light.
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14th April 2008, 05:46 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by
Shakthiprabha
I feel everybody talks the same
yet everybody feels what they say is different than others
Ekam Sath Vipraha Bahudha Vadanti
The Truth is One; the Wise speak of it diversely.
When we stop labouring under the delusion of our cosmic self-importance, we are free of hindrance, fear, worry and attachment. We are liberated!!!
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22nd April 2008, 01:09 PM
#44
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Badri,
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30th April 2008, 06:24 PM
#45
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What is the definition of truth ?
Does it mean the mere fact, the reality or the perception according to one's consciousness ?
Regards
Punnaimaran
இந்தக் காட்டில் எந்த மூங்கில் இசைக்க வல்லது என்று மயங்கிய பொழுது
இறைவன் தேர்ந்தெடுத்தப் புல்லாங்குழல் தான் நம் இசைஞானி !!
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30th April 2008, 07:17 PM
#46
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Indestructible fact which is the source of everything which is said, wheter be it reality or perception.
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1st May 2008, 12:01 PM
#47
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In that case, given the level of our consciousness, we can only arrive at various perceptions and not a single indestructible fact.
This is strictly my opinion and not necessarilly a fact.
இந்தக் காட்டில் எந்த மூங்கில் இசைக்க வல்லது என்று மயங்கிய பொழுது
இறைவன் தேர்ந்தெடுத்தப் புல்லாங்குழல் தான் நம் இசைஞானி !!
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21st May 2009, 06:53 PM
#48
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Missing you Rohit and Pradheep!
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7th June 2009, 04:39 AM
#49
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given the level of our consciousness, we can only arrive at various perceptions and not a single indestructible fact
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Consciousness is only one. In each individual the same Cosnciousness is used by the Ego at different levels. But the Ego functions through the five sense organs and so perceptions change. When an individual transcends the Ego and is at the level of pure Cosnciousness then it is the one and the same, no contrdictions, no difference, the Univ ersal Truth.
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18th August 2009, 03:46 PM
#50
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Pradeep,
Ive been searching for the answer for a weird question for past few months and not been successful.
Bhagavatham and upanishads and puranas talk about manvantaras and cyclical creations. It is said about manvantara and mahamanvantara and pralaya and mahapralaya and how the creation happened.
Where exactly "karmic" events benefit after the great deluge ( I talk about not pralaya but 'maha-pralaya' or the beginning of 'maha-manvantara') ? So the creation by design or chance (whatever it be) has to go thro from the very beginning without the differentiation of evolved and evolving and the karma they carried?
Hope I am clear with my question
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