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**raagas** · 26th May 2009, 07:07 PM

I am yet doubtful abt Kooda varuviya song. Is it really Bela Shinde and not Shreya Ghoshal? Or was it a printing mistake on CD.

Was it Bela Shinde in Nannavanu's "Mutthamma"? If yes, then she sounds totally different in Kooda varuviya.

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**Sureshs65** · 26th May 2009, 07:53 PM

Hulk,

Udit Narayan's Kannada pronunciation is atrocious. For 'Naa Jothege' (should mean something like 'along with me') he says 'Nachi Dekhe' (which in Hindi means, 'You dance, let me see'

Horrible.

**Sureshs65** · 26th May 2009, 07:54 PM

Hulk,

'Balegara Balegara' is a remake of which song?

**krish244** · 26th May 2009, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by raagas

I am yet doubtful abt Kooda varuviya song. Is it really Bela Shinde and not Shreya Ghoshal? Or was it a printing mistake on CD.

Was it Bela Shinde in Nannavanu's "Mutthamma"? If yes, then she sounds totally different in Kooda varuviya.

Raagas, Bela Shende's voice is a mix of Sadhana Sargam and Shreya Ghoshal. Her voice has the sweetness of Shreya's voice in most ranges and in some ranges (especially high pitches), she sounds like Sadhana (with a tint of Shreya's voice). You can listen to all her songs (for Yuvan in some movie, for IR in "Unakkulle" song in Dhanam, etc.). For lot of reasons, Shreya is still my favourite, but Bela is trying to catch up. She needs to certainly catch up on pronunciation.

Yes, her style of singing in Nannavanu makes it sound different and little nasal too.

thanks,

Krishnan

**ananth222** · 26th May 2009, 09:11 PM

dunno if this was already posted...
http://www.chalchaleinthefilm.com/main.html
2 short sample loops, and a couple of candid snaps of IR in the "gallery". sounds promising!
Trailer:

**thamizhvaanan** · 26th May 2009, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by gganesh

But are we increasingly getting predominated by sounds these days and so start focusing on sounds? I think Raaja sir fans shouldn't and wouldn't do that. I believe the very fact we are his fans reflects our belief in tunes and the intelligence behind those gestations.

Yes! I also think Raaja sir fans ought to be mature enough to appreciate what one means by saying Rahmanesque instead of dismissing it as a sound-obsessed comment. After all, being his fan itself gives a "no-validation-required promotion" to elite listeners league, they will be well served if they dont advertise their inability to appreciate *other* good stuff.

Certainly I can say, (even CR would say) that it is not about the sound (I didnt even think about it). People who have enjoyed both these legends music heartily will know where each one's sweet spot lies and when the MD has done something out of normal.

**kiru** · 27th May 2009, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan

Originally Posted by gganesh

But are we increasingly getting predominated by sounds these days and so start focusing on sounds? I think Raaja sir fans shouldn't and wouldn't do that. I believe the very fact we are his fans reflects our belief in tunes and the intelligence behind those gestations.

Yes! I also think Raaja sir fans ought to be mature enough to appreciate what one means by saying Rahmanesque instead of dismissing it as a sound-obsessed comment. After all, being his fan itself gives a "no-validation-required promotion" to elite listeners league, they will be well served if they dont advertise their inability to appreciate *other* good stuff.

Certainly I can say, (even CR would say) that it is not about the sound (I didnt even think about it). People who have enjoyed both these legends music heartily will know where each one's sweet spot lies and when the MD has done something out of normal.

Thamizh.. I dont know why some of us feel here these songs are Rahmanesque. Probably Ganesh also is not very sure. But Rahman is synonymous with a "new sound". Actually, Rahman himself, said in one interview that "we have a created a new sound". On the other hand, IR insists that music is nothing new, but he might say "adhi irukkira ovvuru notum ennOdadhu". So in essence I dont think there is anything wrong in Ganesh mentioning this ie. it does not reflect negatively on Rahman.
Of late, you can see the new songs of IR shows a conscious attempt to provide new "rhythm arrangements". Also, in vaalmiki, the percussion/rhythm is recorded at a higher level than is the norm in IR's songs. I feel IR is "forcing" himself to do this, atleast that is my perception. I am not sure that this is good. Maybe one reason a malayalam producer recently specifically asked for "tabla" song.
(BTW, guys, I think vaalmiki songs sound like kaathal jathi songs to me, in style of composing, please (rec)check it out).

**ananth222** · 27th May 2009, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by kiru

Of late, you can see the new songs of IR shows a conscious attempt to provide new "rhythm arrangements".

"Of late"? What about "abbani theeyani"? "Nila adhu vaanathumele"? "Maasi maasam"? "Kaattu kuyilu"?
All this talk abt "new sound" and "new rhythm" is balderdash. its all been done before, even before IR. What is important is whether the song is good when the tune, rhythm, orchestration, voice, lyrics etc come together.

**kiru** · 27th May 2009, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by ananth222

Originally Posted by kiru

Of late, you can see the new songs of IR shows a conscious attempt to provide new "rhythm arrangements".

"Of late"? What about "abbani theeyani"? "Nila adhu vaanathumele"? "Maasi maasam"? "Kaattu kuyilu"?
All this talk abt "new sound" and "new rhythm" is balderdash. its all been done before, even before IR. What is important is whether the song is good when the tune, rhythm, orchestration, voice, lyrics etc come together.

Let me scramble to qualify my statement

. I am completely in agreement with you - on new arrangements earlier and also everything coming to gether to get a hit. If you see the earlier "hits" or "popular hits" of IR all of them have innovative arrangements, atleast in the pallavi. Many of them would use more than two percussion instruments. Recently though, the focus is on using "synth drum kit" and this is what I am referring to (and I am also referring to the "focus" on this). (And you are right about or agree with you on this being done before IR as well).

**irir123** · 27th May 2009, 04:24 AM

"Kooda varuviya" is the modern day equivalent of "kaadhalin theebam ondru" in terms of the freshness, the audacious melody and the way it has taken everyone by storm!!

"oli tharum" belongs to the league of "aa dinagalu" from the kannada film with the same name! the same feel, the same flow and rich melody - the strings played feel like someone caressing with peacock feathers! such images can only be evoked by IR's music - and when Bela Shinde goes "thirundhiya pinney, varundhavadheno, varuvadhu vasanthangaley" the ascending tune , followed by the keyboard/piano is a perfect smooth musical roller-coaster ride!

oh boy! the more I listen to it, the more I see IR's natural flow that I thought was somehow missing every now and then in recent times

wonder whats the Raga "kooda varuviya" based on ? it feels like Hindustani based and definitely IR shd score songs like this in Hindi - they wud become big hits