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18th September 2009, 11:41 AM
#781
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A Wednesday - writing is nowhere near a "Hey Ram" or "Virumandi". Kamal fans had wanted to see his own written/directed film rather than remake "A Wednesday". I suppose "Marmayogi" didn't happen. So he went ahead and did this. Next (fingers crossed) should be his own film, not necessarily a big-budget film (like Marmayogi).
...an artist without an art.
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18th September 2009 11:41 AM
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18th September 2009, 11:49 AM
#782
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Plum, amaidhi amaidhi :thaNNi theLiching:
I brought bharadhar into this. So perhaps I should try to do a little bit of plain talking.
Till Kaminey I had my doubts about Shahid. But what he did in that movie is better than what Bharath has done so far. I am not exactly sure how to subtract the VB effect,
Originally Posted by
Plum
Idhai sonnA, disappointingly, P_R, you make that oscar joke. I'd have expected that from someone else but from you, it was disappointing.
Sorry, it was too juicy to resist. I should rein in. Second warning today for me.
Anyway, while I agree opportunities are lower for Bharath, but I have no reason to believe he would have been able to pull off the performance that Shahid manage to in kaminey.
Now for the reverse comparison. Kadhal - Shahid can't do - seems screaming obvious to you (plural). I am not so sure of that. Along with pattiyal, Veyyil is perhaps the other movie I like Bharath best in. Even that I don't see beyond the reach of Shahid. And yes I am saying all this based on 'one' performance directed by an ace director. We will see in a few years how things pan out.
It is my humble opinion that even in the acting department, lack of opportunity, market etc. is the lesser of the reasons.
I have noticeably skirted the 'comparison of averages' argument. Simply because I don't know about indhi averages. But I have to say that there is noticeably average acting even in the best of our directors. We can start right from Naan KadavuL.
Bottomline, I continue to have to grant a 'handicap' to enjoy a Tamil film. I see I have to do that less and less for Hindi films. Heck, I see an ordinary film with cliched moments, like Dasvidaniya, and good or bad...it is in a completely different universe. That is all I am saying.
மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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18th September 2009, 11:49 AM
#783
Senior Member
Platinum Hubber
Yeah, k-g, the sad thing is a Marmayogi or marudhanayagam cannot be made here. While people get to burn 60 crores on 2050 Love Story in Bollywood. Appuram En adhu better-A irukkadhungarEn?
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18th September 2009, 11:55 AM
#784
I can't understand why u make assumptions all the time???
We (as per you, the Bolly gang) never went around promoting movies like Love 2020, Yuvraaj etc etc and say Bolly is better because of those craps...
So, P_R, it's you who pattavachufying the Shahid-Barath equation...
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18th September 2009, 12:00 PM
#785
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Platinum Hubber
Originally Posted by
Plum
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Originally Posted by
Plum
For every Dev D, there is a kaadhal.
I was bored in the second half of Dev D (looks around for Thilak and ducks). But if kaadhal is the best we have to compare against it (looks around for Nerd and ducks)
End of day fatigue typing (so I may retract tomorrow)...Kaadhal's endpiece with voice over, ezhuthu, signature a la Bharathiraja, discouraged me from revisiting the film. Elitism alert...I mean how nuanced can such a director be. Good film with greatness being largely incidental than intentional.
மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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18th September 2009, 12:01 PM
#786
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Diamond Hubber
Originally Posted by
Thalafanz
Thats ur own allegation(s). I didn't say Kamal Bollywood pitchaila vAzhurAr etc etc bulls**t...
What I was trying to say is what make the great Kamal to notice A Wednesday and remake it in the first place??? Writing... Exellent writing... On top of that, class performace by Naseer...
TF, its futile as i tell Anoop too.......do u see me talking to ? :P
btw to other sincere kamal fans like Bala - TF didnt mean anything demeaning abt kamal, he just meant writing standards are so good in hindi that even a great like kamal is inspired to remake them........i take it as a compliment to both bollywood and Kamal
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18th September 2009, 12:02 PM
#787
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Platinum Hubber
Originally Posted by
Thalafanz
So, P_R, it's you who pattavachufying the Shahid-Barath equation...
Actually my question was rhetorical as I thought the very suggestion that Bharath could do something like that would elicit a giggle and a "aamaam- le" reaction. Backfired real bad
மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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18th September 2009, 12:06 PM
#788
Originally Posted by
MADDY
Originally Posted by
Thalafanz
Thats ur own allegation(s). I didn't say Kamal Bollywood pitchaila vAzhurAr etc etc bulls**t...
What I was trying to say is what make the great Kamal to notice A Wednesday and remake it in the first place??? Writing... Exellent writing... On top of that, class performace by Naseer...
TF, its futile as i tell Anoop too.......do u see me talking to ? :P
btw to other sincere kamal fans like Bala - TF didnt mean anything demeaning abt kamal, he just meant writing standards are so good in hindi that even a great like kamal is inspired to remake them........i take it as a compliment to both bollywood and Kamal
Ithai konjam azhuttamA, sathtamA sonnathukku romba nandri.
Naan Anban, CR-kitta ellAm paatu vAngga virumbala... :P
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18th September 2009, 12:07 PM
#789
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Platinum Hubber
Originally Posted by
MADDY
writing standards are so good in hindi that even a great like kamal is inspired to remake them
Nah...I like to believe UPO is a quickie he didn't mind trying because he had a gap in his diary. From what we know it is 'ideologically' distant from Kamal's stand. And -something I rue about actually - most of his movies reflect some shade of his political vision - if that's the word for it. I wouldn't read too much into his remaking Wednesday.
மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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18th September 2009, 12:09 PM
#790
Senior Member
Veteran Hubber
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