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18th September 2009, 11:41 AM
#781
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A Wednesday - writing is nowhere near a "Hey Ram" or "Virumandi". Kamal fans had wanted to see his own written/directed film rather than remake "A Wednesday". I suppose "Marmayogi" didn't happen. So he went ahead and did this. Next (fingers crossed) should be his own film, not necessarily a big-budget film (like Marmayogi).
...an artist without an art.
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18th September 2009 11:41 AM
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18th September 2009, 11:49 AM
#782
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Plum, amaidhi amaidhi :thaNNi theLiching:
I brought bharadhar into this. So perhaps I should try to do a little bit of plain talking.
Till Kaminey I had my doubts about Shahid. But what he did in that movie is better than what Bharath has done so far. I am not exactly sure how to subtract the VB effect,
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Plum
Idhai sonnA, disappointingly, P_R, you make that oscar joke. I'd have expected that from someone else but from you, it was disappointing.
Sorry, it was too juicy to resist. I should rein in. Second warning today for me.
Anyway, while I agree opportunities are lower for Bharath, but I have no reason to believe he would have been able to pull off the performance that Shahid manage to in kaminey.
Now for the reverse comparison. Kadhal - Shahid can't do - seems screaming obvious to you (plural). I am not so sure of that. Along with pattiyal, Veyyil is perhaps the other movie I like Bharath best in. Even that I don't see beyond the reach of Shahid. And yes I am saying all this based on 'one' performance directed by an ace director. We will see in a few years how things pan out.
It is my humble opinion that even in the acting department, lack of opportunity, market etc. is the lesser of the reasons.
I have noticeably skirted the 'comparison of averages' argument. Simply because I don't know about indhi averages. But I have to say that there is noticeably average acting even in the best of our directors. We can start right from Naan KadavuL.
Bottomline, I continue to have to grant a 'handicap' to enjoy a Tamil film. I see I have to do that less and less for Hindi films. Heck, I see an ordinary film with cliched moments, like Dasvidaniya, and good or bad...it is in a completely different universe. That is all I am saying.
மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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18th September 2009, 11:49 AM
#783
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Yeah, k-g, the sad thing is a Marmayogi or marudhanayagam cannot be made here. While people get to burn 60 crores on 2050 Love Story in Bollywood. Appuram En adhu better-A irukkadhungarEn?
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18th September 2009, 11:55 AM
#784
I can't understand why u make assumptions all the time??? ![Huh?!](images/smilies/huh.gif)
We (as per you, the Bolly gang) never went around promoting movies like Love 2020, Yuvraaj etc etc and say Bolly is better because of those craps...
So, P_R, it's you who pattavachufying the Shahid-Barath equation...
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18th September 2009, 12:00 PM
#785
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Plum
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Bichooo ![hysterical](images/smilies/hysterical.gif)
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Originally Posted by
Plum
For every Dev D, there is a kaadhal.
I was bored in the second half of Dev D (looks around for Thilak and ducks). But if kaadhal is the best we have to compare against it
(looks around for Nerd and ducks)
End of day fatigue typing (so I may retract tomorrow)...Kaadhal's endpiece with voice over, ezhuthu, signature a la Bharathiraja, discouraged me from revisiting the film. Elitism alert...I mean how nuanced can such a director be. Good film with greatness being largely incidental than intentional.
மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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18th September 2009, 12:01 PM
#786
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Thalafanz
Thats ur own allegation(s). I didn't say Kamal Bollywood pitchaila vAzhurAr etc etc bulls**t...
What I was trying to say is what make the great Kamal to notice A Wednesday and remake it in the first place??? Writing... Exellent writing... On top of that, class performace by Naseer...
TF, its futile as i tell Anoop too.......do u see me talking to ? :P
btw to other sincere kamal fans like Bala - TF didnt mean anything demeaning abt kamal, he just meant writing standards are so good in hindi that even a great like kamal is inspired to remake them........i take it as a compliment to both bollywood and Kamal
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18th September 2009, 12:02 PM
#787
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png)
Originally Posted by
Thalafanz
So, P_R, it's you who pattavachufying the Shahid-Barath equation...
![Twisted Evil](images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif)
Actually my question was rhetorical as I thought the very suggestion that Bharath could do something like that would elicit a giggle and a "aamaam- le" reaction. Backfired real bad
மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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18th September 2009, 12:06 PM
#788
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MADDY
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png)
Originally Posted by
Thalafanz
Thats ur own allegation(s). I didn't say Kamal Bollywood pitchaila vAzhurAr etc etc bulls**t...
What I was trying to say is what make the great Kamal to notice A Wednesday and remake it in the first place??? Writing... Exellent writing... On top of that, class performace by Naseer...
TF, its futile as i tell Anoop too.......do u see me talking to ? :P
btw to other sincere kamal fans like Bala - TF didnt mean anything demeaning abt kamal, he just meant writing standards are so good in hindi that even a great like kamal is inspired to remake them........i take it as a compliment to both bollywood and Kamal
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Ithai konjam azhuttamA, sathtamA sonnathukku romba nandri. ![Very Happy](images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Naan Anban, CR-kitta ellAm paatu vAngga virumbala... :P
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18th September 2009, 12:07 PM
#789
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MADDY
writing standards are so good in hindi that even a great like kamal is inspired to remake them
Nah...I like to believe UPO is a quickie he didn't mind trying because he had a gap in his diary. From what we know it is 'ideologically' distant from Kamal's stand. And -something I rue about actually - most of his movies reflect some shade of his political vision - if that's the word for it. I wouldn't read too much into his remaking Wednesday.
மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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18th September 2009, 12:09 PM
#790
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