Maestro Ilaiyaraja New Albums 2011 - Hello Jaihind / Sri Rama Rajyam

[Sureshs65]

irir123,

As Jai says, probably 11 people know about 'Chal Chalein', if you don't consider the cast and crew of the film. (Maybe many of the cast / crew would probably want to forget about the film.) A lovely score wasted on that movie.

[writeface]

Gokul / Jai,

I don't see any difference between forum members expressing their views here and with Karthik expressing his views. It is just that he expresses them in a blog. I don't see why that should make his views any more important than those of yours!!! I think we should take it in the spirit of 'one more view of the album' rather than "oh i was so expecting his review!!!" type of thing. As I said, it is just one point of view and which is in no superior or inferior to what is being discussed here.

Suresh,

Going by what he has written before, I was predicting that he'd trash it. I wasn't trashing his opinion. He has his opinion and so do we have ours. Thats all to it, and it is not worth exclaiming

-Gokul

[rajaalltheway]

irir123,

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forget the synth usage - in 'suryakanthi' a beautiful tune such as 'chan chanare' is spoilt rotten by those 'dangu dingu dan dadang dang/cham chaku cham' chorus part - in the 1980s, it was ok, but this is 2009!! what the heck is happening ? what cud have otherwise been a complete album has been offset by these elements which am sure if IR had been more careful cud have been easily replaced with some interesting motifs - what i find glaringly missing are those lilting string motifs such as this here - http://www.mediafire.com/?gim2u5kwvtg - my question is why not replace these meaningless 'dang dings' with such motifs to make the score complete ? noone dare question IR's output quality thereafter!

20 years since the 1980s, listening such stuff in otherwise well-composed tracks is plain embarassing

i dont mean to offend any one..what is chorus part that suits 2010,
"yole yole yole",or "fouham heeee mo chee.."or is "mehu mehu mehu"?? i think every composer has some how has his own sounds for chorus like Devas' sick 'hayo hayo"..which stays on for ever...

[raagas]

So, if we look ahead...

What do we have in the platter, in 2010?

Albums wise we have atleast four pending for Tamil, One for Hindi which is Happi/Mausam by Pankaj, Two in Malayalam, one for Satyan Anikkad and another with Mohanlal, One in Telugu which has a famous martial arts exponent in the lead, i think its called Oh My God. Not sure about the rest.

In Telugu, there are two then:

1. Oh My God
2. Thyagayya.

In Hindi:

1. Happi
2. SRK
3. Anything else, after Paa's success?

Malayalam:
1. Satyan Anikkad film
2. Mohan Lal film.

Tamil:
1. Ayyan?
2. ??
3. ??

And.... Any idea if IR is working on any non-film albums? Long time since he produced one.

[Hulkster]

Well he will probably do a Non-Film Album if he really feels there is a challenge in that situation. Thiruvasagam happened when he rewrote a composition for his friend Laszlo Kovacs in tune to the lyrics Kovacs was working on and he wondered why not try them for something like thiruvasagam.

HTNI and NBW are projects he always was thinking of, the first probably identifies his "scientific" proof that WCM is no different from ICM and the other proves that music stems from natural sounds which we then make them into music we enjoy and listen. Like it is part and parcel of life yet we do not realise them.

There were rumours he has alot of "lunchtime" compositions about thoughts he had about music but they are all just kept in the dark as currently he is quite busy with projects.

[Sanjeevi]

Tamil

No Bala movie in near feature, he has roped U1 for his next. Already kamal has joined in the 'don't look at IR' list. What about Kannabiran of Ameer? is not IR?

I don't have much hope on Ayyan or Mayilue. I mean they may not be released. But it is Padithurai seems to be released soon.

[vssathish]

Hi

Being a hardcore fan of Raaja, I am seeing a significant change in Raaja's attitude for the past 3 months. Raaja has started attending functions/promos. That does not surprise me to a greater extent. But what surprises is the talk where he mentions that this movie is my 882nd movie and PAA movie is 884th movie and so on.
Raaja never keeps track of the number of movies/accolades/awards he has won so far and never speaks about the same. Because he used to tell that he has not achieved anything in music and he has miles to go.

Considering that, it is a surprise to me in Raaja saying the above (in relation to the movie count).

Has Raaja thought that he has reached more than what can be thought of or is he showing signs of being contended with his achievements.
Both cannot be good news for the die-hard fans since we want him to achieve more and not feel contended..

May be I m wrong in my thinking and Raaja proves me the same

[jaiganes]

btw, 'chal chalein' is a far superior album as a whole (compared to say 'nannavanu') in terms of sophistication of synth and jazz usage! donno why such an effort got wasted on a film tat came and went in the blink of an eyelid!

had even 2 of the 'chal chalein' tracks been used in a film with some big star in hindi, they wud have gotten the popularity they so richly deserve!

not a day goes by for me without listening to that soul soothing melody of 'Aliyaage' and the brilliance of 'gup chup' and the playfulness of 'uff arre tu'. other two songs aren't pushovers either. Strangely ppls ears proved to be slightly worser than a donkey's capacity to smell camphor.

[app_engine]

Agree with both jaiganes & irir123 - chal chalEin score is superb! IMO, comparable to the two biggies of recent times (PR / pA) and above anything he did in TFM in the last couple of years (with the sole exception of kaNNil pArvai)

[irir123]

irir123,

.

forget the synth usage - in 'suryakanthi' a beautiful tune such as 'chan chanare' is spoilt rotten by those 'dangu dingu dan dadang dang/cham chaku cham' chorus part - in the 1980s, it was ok, but this is 2009!! what the heck is happening ? what cud have otherwise been a complete album has been offset by these elements which am sure if IR had been more careful cud have been easily replaced with some interesting motifs - what i find glaringly missing are those lilting string motifs such as this here - http://www.mediafire.com/?gim2u5kwvtg - my question is why not replace these meaningless 'dang dings' with such motifs to make the score complete ? noone dare question IR's output quality thereafter!

20 years since the 1980s, listening such stuff in otherwise well-composed tracks is plain embarassing

i dont mean to offend any one..what is chorus part that suits 2010,
"yole yole yole",or "fouham heeee mo chee.."or is "mehu mehu mehu"?? i think every composer has some how has his own sounds for chorus like Devas' sick 'hayo hayo"..which stays on for ever...

you are completely missing my point

well if you want to put IR in the same platter as Deva, go ahead - but i bracket IR with the best in the world - and i dont see a john williams or a hans zimmer doing any of this crap - true, IR works under different circumstances, but right now, when his music (as well as others) is being accessible to a wider spectrum of ppl than ever before, I wud want his output to NOT have such 'dang ding' nonsense

last year, i did play some of IR's tracks to a documentary film making friend of mine, who immensely liked the variety/versatility, and the tunes, but upfront pointed out the weird sounds (paraphrasing her -"whats that weird 'jaangu chakku chachakku chakku' in an otherwise brilliant 'rakkamma' no ?") and also the recording quality

recording-wise his music has jumped ahead, but when i get to listen to 'suryakanthi' with all those things i mentioned, i dont know how i can send such an album for a review! go back and read steve's review of IR's music in Film Music Journal - even in his glorifying review, he has upfront pointed out the inconsistent sound levels in Cheeni Kum's recording!

lets face it - this kind of a 'frog in the well' attitude will not help - and being objective and constructively criticizing WILL HELP!

IR might be a genius, but now with more and more people taking interest in his output, he better get rid of these redundant sounds and replace them with something more universally palatable

if not, a bunch of IR fans like you and me will listen to his music, and that too, downloaded illegally online, after some HCIRF gets lucky enough to get hold of his released CD, rips it and uploads it somewhere - this trend will continue, and IR will get continue to be, to quote Vignesh from his article "an island in India, that noone will ever know of"