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26th April 2005, 07:27 PM
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story of kopperum cholan and pisirandayar
Hi! Can someone tell me the story related to friendship between kopperum cholan and pisirandayar
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B.
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26th April 2005 07:27 PM
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3rd May 2005, 10:12 PM
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Kopperunchozhan was a chozhar king (c.375-345 B.C.E.)
He was a modest, just, and a poet king who had great poets of his time as his loyal friends.
Pisir Andhaiyaar was the greatest Tamil poet of that time.He lived at a village called "Pisir" in the Pandyan Empire, near the city of Poandhai in pesent Kanyakumari district.
He had been a great fan of Kopperunchozhan without even having seen him ever.He had considered himself a great fiend of the Chozha king owing to the latter's vast knowledge in Tamizh, being a good poet and a great patron of Tamil scholars.
One day, (around 345 B.C.E.)after having a contradiction in administrative principles with his son the crown prince Mudiththalaikko perunarkilli, and after the latter having called him unfit to continue as king, the Chozhar king decided to observe fasting unto death-the ritual called as "vadakkiruththal"-a way of ending one's life with esteem, after having finished all his social duties and in all gratitude for the almighty God Sivaperumanaar.
The problem was that the father did not agree to the prince's wish to attack the Pandyan king of that time Pandyan Arivudai Nambi, just to establish the Chozhar supremacy over him.The prince had earlier been provoked by- the Pandyan Nambi's historic victory over invading North Indian Emperor, a king of the Nanda dynasty at a huge battle(c. 345 B.C.E.) near south Kalinga on the banks of the Krishna River, the then northern border of Thamizhagam and Nambi declared himself "the Emperor of South India".
Kopperunchozhan didnot agree for an invasion on Madurai because it was not righteous to wage an unnecessary war for no reason, to kill innocent soldiers and people when both countries enjoyed peace and prosperity and were in their respective golden age of fertility and flourishing wealth.And afterall, the Pandyan Emperor had just done his duty on behalf of all Tamizh people to prevent the invading Nanda Emperor from entering South India and one has to pay him with gratitude for establishing Tamizh supremacy over North Indian Empire; if not showing enemity towards Nambi Pandyan,
But the crown prince Mudiththalaikko perunarkilli unfortunately couldnot understand the king's righteousness because of his pumped up youth and called him unfit to continue as king,
So, When the king sat down for the ritual, his dear friends who could not bear the separation, and in support for their king's righteousness also sat along with him to lay down their lives too.
Hearing this news, Pisirandhaiyaar hurried to Uraiyur, in order to join the ritual to die along with his dearest friend the King.
On meeting the great poet for the first time, the king embraced Pisirandhaiyaar, with tears in his eyes, still unable to believe this extraordinary true and loyal heart-melting friend willing to accompany him through the path of death to the land of golden garden - the Heaven.
Then both the king and his beloved friend Pisirandhaiyaar and other poets sat on the South banks of River Ponni fasting unto death and reached the high Heavens together.
That was the greatest incident of pure, true friendship in all of history , in all world civilisations!
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4th May 2005, 10:14 AM
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Hi Senthil
Did the war between Cholas and Pandyas happen because of the young Chola prince? If so, who won the battle? WHat happened after this incident
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4th May 2005, 03:05 PM
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Dear Thiru senthilkumaaras,
Thanks a lot for your reminding the bonded friendship through your neat description of great history.
All civilized people of world shall wonder after hearing like these nice stories in his history.
Pichiranthaiyar - Koperuncholan friendship is a milestone in human relationship.
World lives now because of such friendships present.
Hats off to you
f.s.gandhi
"Kal thonri man thontra kalathay mun thonri mootha kudi"- a second century literature- means when before stone became sand in earth the tamil tribes were formulated
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8th May 2005, 01:37 PM
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dear Thiru.viggop,
Pandyan Nambi won the battle that followed , Chozhan prince Mudiththalaikopperunarkilli was easily humbled;but Nambi gave his country back as a homage and tribute to the righteous and noblest king Kopperunchozhan;
The Pandyan hegemony continued upto the accession of the great Chozhar Emperor Ilancaet Cenni to the throne around 275 B.C.E. Emperor Cenni is the one who thwarted all Mauryan attempts of invading the Tamil land south of River Krishna.
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8th May 2005, 04:49 PM
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Want to know more on hegemonies(flourishing empires) of ancient Tamizhagam;
Pandyan hegemony-9800 B.C.E.-2700 B.C.E.
Chozhan hegemony-2550-1555 B.C.E.
Cheran hegemony -1555 B.C.E.-510 B.C.E.
2 nd Pandyan hegemony from 510 B.C.E.-275 B.C.E.
2 nd Chozhan hegemony from 275 B.C.E.-90 C.E.
2 nd Cheran hegemony from 90 C.E.-120 C.E. during the reign of Cheran Cenguttuvan
3 rd Chozhan hegemony from 120 C.E.-140 C.E.
3 rd Pandyan hegemony from 140 C.E.-170 C.E.
4 th Chozhan hegemony from 170 C.E.-250 C.E.
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8th May 2005, 05:00 PM
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there are more similar historic stories on moral values and valour, bravery, love and friendship documented in Ancient Tamizh Koodal literature like:
Pisiraandhaiyaar-Koepperunchozhan
Paari-Kabilar
Adhiyamaan-Avvaiyaar
Escape of Karikaalan
Driving out Mauryan army from Kadamba by Cenni
Destroying Nanda army by Nambi
the famous Himalayan and North Indian invasions of
Karikaalan
Cenguttuvan
Nedunceralaadhan
Nediyoane
Nedunchezhiyan I
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16th November 2005, 07:35 PM
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many thanks for the info on pisirandayar and kopperum cholan
Hi,
Many thanks for providing me with the info. i am moved and filled with tears on reading the story.
Cheers
B
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25th November 2005, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by
senthilkumaras
dear Thiru.viggop,
Emperor Cenni is the one who thwarted all Mauryan attempts of invading the Tamil land south of River Krishna.
Actually, it was a confederation of South Indian kings who stood up to Bhimbisara. Bhimbisara claims to have received tributes and stopped his campaign and his inscriptions extend only up to Northern Karnataka the traditional border of Tamizhagam (Thungabadra). South Indian kings that they stopped the king's advamce. There are no records whether a battle actually took place.
It is possible that both of them were right. That the confederation of South Indian kings stopped the campaign in a show of force and got into a treaty with the North Indian king with a tribute. Thus, nobody won or lost and no mass killings and weaking of empires. Bhimbisara must have realized that even if he would win the war, he would lose heavily to not be able to occupy the South or retain the North.
Rgds, Aravind Sitaraman
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25th November 2005, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
senthilkumaras
but Nambi gave his country back as a homage and tribute to the righteous and noblest king Kopperunchozhan
I remember reading about an instance of a Pandya king defeating the Chozha and handing back the kingdom. There the invader was the Pandiyan and Chozhas were defending.
The king, if I recall right was Sundarapaandian (which could have been a generic title name given to many Pandiyan kings). The Chozha king at that time happened to have a title name 'Rajendran' (not the Rajendran, this was another one).
Is your reference the same or am I getting my history all jumbled up ?
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