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Thread: Maestro Ilaiyaraja New Albums 2011 - Hello Jaihind / Sri Rama Rajyam

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    ARR is a "free form composer" IR is a classical composer ie. even for ordinary situation he goes to his library of raagams and starts composing with it as the base. Even thanni thotti thEdi vandha kannukutti naan is based on a classical raagam. ARR will do a 'classical' composition only if the situation is called for. IMHO, if ARR consistently used raagams as base for all songs, he probably would not have sounded different from IR and hence successful.
    (Re: VS - I am with rs. I dont think he is that original, but he does know to build a strong tune, just like IR and other old MDs who use raagams as base)

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    saamingala...
    idha comparison discussion kal thondra kaalathukkum munnalaye mudinju poyaachu. edhukku marubadiyum?
    plss. get back to the subject...
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    Re: other composers. I like all the fun songs of ARR. My other favorites were Ramesh Vinayagam and in Hindi (Ismail Darbar). I listen to IR specifically because he delivers me a specific genre that not many MDs are catering. Sometime back I got a 2-CD compilation of KJY's songs and I love all the songs in these two CDs irrespective of the MDs. This is what I call as the "Indian Film Music" genre and IR continues to provide songs in this genre.

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    EnnaikkO oru naaLaikku enakku post pannanum time/intereset vandhirukku. En discourage pannareenga ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiru View Post
    EnnaikkO oru naaLaikku enakku post pannanum time/intereset vandhirukku. En discourage pannareenga ?
    yaaru pannaa? innikku physics exam, neenga chemistry paper answer dhaan ezhudhuvennu adam pidikkappadaadhu? sariya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaiganes View Post
    yaaru pannaa? innikku physics exam, neenga chemistry paper answer dhaan ezhudhuvennu adam pidikkappadaadhu? sariya?
    Jai, the post was relevant to the topic of classical music output of composers. It was not in anyway negative to any MD also. I would not post anything if I felt it did not add any value. I appreciate you on trying to keep the thread to the topic, but I think these are healthy and informative digressions, if not to you but to many of the new comers to the thread. Well. I will leave it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiru View Post
    Jai, the post was relevant to the topic of classical music output of composers. It was not in anyway negative to any MD also. I would not post anything if I felt it did not add any value. I appreciate you on trying to keep the thread to the topic, but I think these are healthy and informative digressions, if not to you but to many of the new comers to the thread. Well. I will leave it here.
    I didnt mind you saying IR as a classical composer or how he has done classical composition, but saying XYZ was "some thing else" - well -it might be very innocently put, but we have to take into the account of the history of hub where such innocent remarks run into pages of discussion about ABC vs XYZ and everyone forgetting what was being discussed in the first place. Having said that I agree that composition structure and style of Raja's music needs to be discussed, but probably in a different thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaiganes View Post
    I didnt mind you saying IR as a classical composer or how he has done classical composition, but saying XYZ was "some thing else" - well -it might be very innocently put, but we have to take into the account of the history of hub where such innocent remarks run into pages of discussion about ABC vs XYZ and everyone forgetting what was being discussed in the first place. Having said that I agree that composition structure and style of Raja's music needs to be discussed, but probably in a different thread.
    Jai - If you recall it all started with someone saying IR is the only MD with complete understanding of Carnatic and Hindustani music. If IR bhagthas stop making such all sweeping statements, we would not have got here.

    I am sorry to say, but IR forum is strictly being monitored for IR praise only (even at the cost of other composers, lyricist etc etc). It is become customary to put one down when he/she offends IR bhagthas here. For this forum to be healthy, everyone's view shall be allowed and respected.

    P.S: ARR's forum is also becoming like this, but it has not become this bad.
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    Genesis - did you read this in my post - "IMHO, if ARR consistently used raagams as base for all songs, he probably would not have sounded different from IR and hence successful." Do you consider this as dig or praise of ARR ? Yes I am a fan of IR's music, but I am not that much of a music ignoramus to undermine the work of Oscar-award winning MD.

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    Genesis,
    "Ithu Enga Area Ulla Varaadha" dialogue is what I could recollect. This "IR Album" category is created to appreciate and express some disappointments (by HC IR Fans) about IR Albums. Many of them who visit this page are HC IR Fans. So teaching rules will not work out. We are here because we love IR. Because we love him a lot we obviously tend to keep him high. I think that is psychologically behavior and seen everywhere in the world. KAKKAIKKU THAN KUNJU PON KUNJU. If you think we dont think balanced/equal, never mind. We are happy with what we think/talk.

    This is my observation. Not intending to hurt anyone .

    Quote Originally Posted by genesis View Post
    Jai - If you recall it all started with someone saying IR is the only MD with complete understanding of Carnatic and Hindustani music. If IR bhagthas stop making such all sweeping statements, we would not have got here.

    I am sorry to say, but IR forum is strictly being monitored for IR praise only (even at the cost of other composers, lyricist etc etc). It is become customary to put one down when he/she offends IR bhagthas here. For this forum to be healthy, everyone's view shall be allowed and respected.

    P.S: ARR's forum is also becoming like this, but it has not become this bad.

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