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9th July 2005, 05:59 PM
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tmrrmt
I would say, IR's composition is sweeter than the honey the 'kothumbi' is seeking!!
Nicely said. Thanks for the explanation. I was reading hte book while listening to the song and for lot of things I am able to get the meaning , except few words here and there. May be thats why everybody likes Thiruvasakam. Manikkavasakar didnt proove his poetic talent here but just simply gave "bhakthi" here. Likewise the music is no more than bhakthi at a different level. Many people cried listening to TIS. I havent cried yet, but each time I hear it, and each time I make more meaning out of it, I loose myself in it.
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9th July 2005 05:59 PM
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9th July 2005, 06:04 PM
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I think this album can only be reviewed by someone who is well versed with thiruvasagam, western classical and eastern classical-which itself is a tough cv to go by. Funnily,I was reminded of vairamuthu's review for sagarasangamam 23 years back-IR's friend turned foe used to review all his songs for which he wrote the lyrics -this was in gemini cinema-they were very well written.He had this to say about salangai oli's songs-''Yaarukum sikkatha sangeetha sigarangalil Raaja sanjarithullar''(IR has scaled musical peaks never scaled before)-Those words will sum up this album beautifully. One thing I am curious is whether he listens to IR at all nowadays and whether he has listened to this work. If so it will be an interesting review.
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9th July 2005, 10:25 PM
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sorry it was kothumbi
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9th July 2005, 10:28 PM
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raja fan .. i bought this in trivandrum.
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9th July 2005, 10:31 PM
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Where I can get the meanings (artham / porul) of Thiruvasagam songs in simple tamil or english.
Please give links?
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10th July 2005, 01:01 AM
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Missing words in "umbarkatkarase"
Thanks to the song book (is it really written by the Maestro himself - such a beautiful muthu muthana hand writing!), I may have found a bug in the singing of umbarkatkarase(?!) Right in the second line, after "yogame!", it should continue as "oothaiyen thanakku". But it skips those two words and continues from "vambenap pazhuthen". I wonder if this was oversight or done on purpose to fit the lyrics to the tune? I heard it a couple of times to confirm. Am I missing anything?
- Murali Rangan
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10th July 2005, 08:33 AM
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A Slap on my face
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Saturday, 9th July 2005 7:30 pm
I dared to do the thing that hitherto was getting postponed for reasons that are silly.
Why I dared? My friends - four of them, whose place I had reached to spend my weekend, have gone out for weekend shopping leaving me at home, at my insistence.
So I am left all alone in the house, was searching in their TV racks for a CD/DVD to play and listen to some music or movie until they
come back. Yeah! i forgot to tell they have a very good sound system at house their house.
What was I so afraid of, reluctant which finally was overpowered by me when I had finally got an environment for the same, which leaves me alone? Oh! yeah I didn't say you, Dr. SankarKumar had sent me the Thiruvasagam CD with a note promising to send me the DVD after a few days. I was bit let down for not getting the DVD in the same parcel. 'Let down' due to various reasons, one for the very reason the DVD is not there, second, I had given my
office address for shipping and was feeling awkward to ask the receptionist everytime to check whether I had received any parcel, and third Dr.SK has to spend one more time to send a parcel to me. But I didnt know that there surely was something hidden in his mind when he sent only the CD - "boy! are you going to be deject for not getting the DVD? Are you going to scold me for what you might think as irresponsible activity? Fine, you are entitled to do that but first let me see whether you will be back to think about this after listening to the CD. let me see whether you need anything after that. I know that your friends have to bring you back and say "welcome to the world (a la morphius)" after you had listened to the CD.
Ok, let me get back to the track. I got the CD on 6th itself and was not finding time to get such an environment to listen to it. 9th 7:30 pm turned out to be that moment.
I had loaded the CD waiting for some preparation talk or presentation. Bang! Don't expect anything thats what the first musical note that started at zero-th second made me to realise that its not something you were looking for; it is serious, it is spiritual, it is experience, so concentrate. That was the message.
Why the hell did this man chose this song to present as the first one. He didn't realise what this would do to me; Instead of devoting one hour for the entire CD I nearly spent the same time for this one song. It simply did not allow me to go to next, oh forget it, it didnt even made me to think even at my brain's remotest possible location.
"Poovaar senni mannan empuyanga perumaan siriyOmai" simply removed me off my body. Oh! I was seeing the Maanickkavaasagar walking all alone in a winter from the amarnath cave towards the kailash; I was seeing kaaraikkaal ammayaar toiling herself (nay her body) from kedarnath but moving towards the same kailash.
Oh! this man in his thirties unmindful of the body that was full of fatigue due to covering a great nation thrice on foot, but was in bliss because of the satisfcation due to the accomplishment of what he wanted to acheive - tell us about the imortality, is also moving from kasi to kedarnath to badrinath to the same kailash. I see Jesus carrying the cross bearing all pain that man has created to him not merely by the whiplashes but more by their deeds, walking towards that mount to get crucified. Oh! what a splendid view that was. All people are saying the same "pOvOm kaalam vandhadhu kaaN poi vittudayaan kazhalpugavE".
After a while I didnt know what happened to them. Did they reach kailash? Dont know I couldn't see anything my eyes were fully of water.
OK, somehow I came out of it, rather the CD forced me to do that with a short pause for a short while, it just re-liberated me again. "PollaavinayEn nin "perunjeer pugazhumaaru onRaRiyEn....I'm just a man imperfect, lowly how can I reach for something holy". Goosepimps, Wet-cheeks are not sole weapons of kids that are lesser in age, it is also those bodily grown-up yet kids too. Thanks to the loneliness, thanks to the kerchief, I could maintain my ego with my friends (who came back after 3 hours) pretending as if nothing has happened, they might have thought that I fell asleep; you see the previous day night we watched movie till 3AM. So none would have thought otherwise.
"maasaaRRa soodhi! malarndha malarchchudarE!
DEsanE! ThEnaar amudhE! sivapuranE!
paasamaam paRRu aRuththu paarikkum aariyanE!"
don't you think my body woudn't have shaked unable to bear the 'inexplicable things' happening in it?
wow! fortunate are those who haven't had to undergo this...nay! unfortunate are those.
Thank God, then came maanikkavaasagar in the form of a 60+ year old voice as well as early twenties female voice. He laughed at me who is trembling here, unable to cope up with the experience so far i was experiencing, then took me to a brief worldly ride, but not in the concrete jungle, not amongst where
other ignorants like me are to be seen. They took me to that most beautiful garden of this "sivapuran" which has a medow, that kailash just at the behind, the pure manasarovar with its holy swans. They showed this 'king butterfly' then after that instead of explaining about that, they started making it as a messenger wanted that 'king butterfly (ko thumbi)' to go and blow trumpet of their virtue to that holy foot that rules, that holy foot on which the son climbs (without fear or reverence), to the holy foot to which this king of flower, purandharan, queen of words, gods show their reverence.
If anything I had to face, experience, encounter, I have to; I will, even if my will is otherwise. That small worldly bliss those two manickavaasagars took
me got stopped, once again they left me to shake further. "UmbartkarasE, ozhivaRa niRaindha yOgamE! vamben pazhuththEn kudimuzhudhaandu....semporuL thunivE,
seerudaikazhalE,selvamE, sivaperumaanE". Man would any other person beg, plead to this extent only to get a gracious look from this unprune, bigamous, undertaker?" I was getting enraged, turned out to be the "angry young man (OK not that young as one would claim) of 21st century". Should anyone make his devotee to turn himself to 'lesser life than a dog'? Hadn't 'Sivapuran' finally graced my manickkavaasagar, I would some how gone to his place and slapped on his face. Thank God (pun intended) maanickkamaamanivaasagar finally got what he wanted".
So..
Namachivaaya vaazhga! naadhan thaazh vaazhga! Hail Hail! I sing hail! Hail Hail! Joyous hail! Endless hail!
Then came a superb earthly tour to all sivakshetram. Tour courtesy again maanickavaasagar who was in the form of music, its visuals, lyrics, its soul, the voices. Wow! what a superb "mix of that golden paste" that blissful moment had created in me. Wow! what a comfort one would feel by being a mere spectator to that spectacular.
From there he told that he will take me to kailash starting from village, rustic environment wherein he was not afraid of the snake dwelling in its den. Oh! he need not to be afraid of anything, you see already he is liberated, already he has become a sivapuran, already he has smeared himself in every cell of kailash. So he need not have to be afraid of birth, rebirth, sin, virtue, good, bad and ugly. When I heard the "amma naama anjum aarE" the other person who suddenly i noticed, was saying "aranga maa nagaruLaanE". I said to him listen carefully our manivaasagar is saying "amma naama anjum aarE". he was unmindful of what I was saying, he still went on saying "aranga maa nagaruLaanE". When I irritatingly turned towards him he was none other than me. I was confused. That time maanickavaasagar saw me, smiled at me. That smile had a lot of meaning. One I could understand, he said without saying that rustic saying "ariyum sivanum onnu adha aRiyaadhavan vaayila maNNu". I realised what he wanted to convey. I turned towards maanickavaasagar to thank him. Here he goes, towards his abode, the kailash, here he goes to get into his ultimate form the 'maasaRRa sOdhi'. I could see him, unbelievable.
So many forms I must wear! So many lives I must bear!
I am just a man imperfect lowly...how can I reach something holy
But thanks to manickavaasagar, thanks to His wish to give me the spectacular musical vision. Until then...
"I was in its control
I was in its control"
But He "granted a glimps of grace! oh! oh! oh!"
I'm just a man! Imperfect lowly! - yet begining to be free!
"Eesanadi poRRi endhayadi poRRi desanadi poRRi sivan sEvadi poRRi maaya piRapparukkum mannanadi poRRi".
"Avan aruLale avan thaaL vaNangi", avan aruLale avanisai kettu inbutREn paraaparamE.
[[ please forgive me for any mistakes ]]
-Kupps
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10th July 2005, 09:55 AM
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10th July 2005, 09:40 PM
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Vijayr,
Thiruvasagam album pathi unga review ethirparkiraen
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10th July 2005, 11:15 PM
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Yes Sir,me too!! VijayR, Sometimes you have completely different, opposite views but very interesting!!! Ungaloda postings lerundhu naan ungalai pathi understand panniyerukkaradhu(I may be completely wrong!!! if I am wrong, apologize me!!), ungalukku ‘viruthama’ carnatic concerts ley paaduvaley adhumaadhiry yerundha better aa appeal aagumnnu ninaikkaren!! Lets see what you have say!!
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