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15th April 2011, 08:56 PM
#1771
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raagas,
While KV has written well about bias, I personally feel that many of us are honest enough when it comes to music. I don't have a problem appreciating anyone but we do expect some minimum level from the music. In case the PS tunes were actually done by another MD, I would have been stunned. I am not trying to flame here, but in my personal opinion, neither Rahman nor Yuvan nor Harris has it in them to get that sort of Hamsadhwani in the 'kanna padithen' interlude nor that twisting and turning Brindavana Saranga in the 'malar villile' second interlude. So I would have jumped out of my seat thinking these guys have improved a lot!!!!
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15th April 2011 08:56 PM
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15th April 2011, 09:40 PM
#1772
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Originally Posted by
krish244
Good to see that Mohanbabu - keeping his gratitude and regard for Raaja and continuing it to the next generation.
BTW what has Raja done to previous mohan babu ventures?
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15th April 2011, 09:57 PM
#1773
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digression

Originally Posted by
Sureshs65
In case the PS tunes were actually done by another MD, I would have been stunned.
Sureshji,
It seems an album called "180" is released by Sharath, the "top-class-sense-of-humor-TV-judge-plus-singer-plus-composer"...your esteemed opinions on that are solicited 
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15th April 2011, 10:13 PM
#1774
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/Dig
app,
I am waiting to listen to that album. I generally like Sarath. He has decent originality in my opinion. Love his 'raavil sandhya raagam pole'. Also like a few songs from 'Thirakkadha' which he had scored and also a Telugu movie he scored. I will not be surprised if '180' is good. Will get my hands on it soon.
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15th April 2011, 10:42 PM
#1775
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Originally Posted by
Sureshs65
'kannai padithen' does indeed remind you of 50s Hindi melodies
yes, tune indeed has 50s style like paarijatha poove, oh party nall partythaan.
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15th April 2011, 10:59 PM
#1776
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Jai,
Raja with Mohan Babu may not be an earth shaking combination. The last one they did together must have been 'Shiv Shankar'. I don't think it created any great waves. Has a couple of nice songs and one 'kuthu' song which I like. Earlier to that must have been 'Kunti Putrudu' which had some nice songs. They also did one Vamshi movie together,'Detective Narada'. When Raja was at his peak, Mohan Babu was just about trying to turn into a hero from being a villain. I don't recall too many Mohan Babu as hero movies having Raja as the MD.
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16th April 2011, 01:44 AM
#1777
Re: PS
Listened to it many times. I have no more interest in listening to the intro song. Same with Annanmar. However, in Bhavani Varugira - Raaja has delivered the "aaththa" song of the century. What an exciting song! The transitions are seamless yet natural. I am yet to hear an intro that is as energetic and exciting as that of malarvillilE.The MangaLa vaaththiyam muzhangudhu chorus does sound KR-ish to me. I got bored of kaNNai padiththEn after few listens. Thedi vandha song is actually very well done (with the exception of the lyrics and the male voice, of course). Overall, an exciting album from thalaivar!
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16th April 2011, 02:16 PM
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KV: I don’t see the point in comparing RDB’s demeanor during BL’s dominance to IR’s situation. Strange enough coming from you who is seen as an objective music listener. Now, when you say that each MD’s work is different and one has to approach their work based on its merit, rather than the name, you’ve surely got a point. But cant we also use this same parameter to gauge (why we need to do this I don’t understand in the first place!) the personality of each MD? How (and why) should there be a similarity in the way they are?
Fair enough! I agree. But i dont mean that I 'expect' IR 'to be like' RD. I only meant that if they (artists of a generation) are more accomodative, their horizons can broaden. RD's was just my example. I meant that - while most artists of a generation will have some issues or the other, with next generation (be it with artists or technology or the shaping up of the art form), there are few who brush aside such issues without talking much about them and try to do work in the new environment, be it successfully or unsuccessfully. Most of the yesteryear composers (in Hindi) belonged to the first set (they were critical about changing times) while there were some of them who belong to the second set. Salil Chaudhary or RD Burman are two examples I can think of. Likewise, Ustad Vilayat Khan belonged to the first set while say a Ustad Zakir Hussain belongs to the second set. I am not saying what is right & what is wrong. Perhaps the first set have valid points (change most often has some dilution, in some aspect). But just that the second set of people bothered less about all that. I gave that example only because your post talked about IR's personality trait too(of contradictions etc) - as affected by the changes in the industry.
KV: Of course, being strongly biased towards a composer, I might miss out on enjoying someone else’s work
I share your thoughts about having favourite artists and i myself indulge in getting the discographies of all my favourite artists. All my posts till now, on this topic, is about those "strong bias" people.
or people who flinch at openly telling - "I dont like this song, even if it is by IR". I have seen many such people (who like a song because it is my IR) and my post was about them. From your posts, I reckon you are not one among those, so excuse your self and spare me as well
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16th April 2011, 02:28 PM
#1779
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Originally Posted by
Sureshs65
raagas,
While KV has written well about bias, I personally feel that many of us are honest enough when it comes to music. I don't have a problem appreciating anyone but we do expect some minimum level from the music. In case the PS tunes were actually done by another MD, I would have been stunned. I am not trying to flame here, but in my personal opinion, neither Rahman nor Yuvan nor Harris has it in them to get that sort of Hamsadhwani in the 'kanna padithen' interlude nor that twisting and turning Brindavana Saranga in the 'malar villile' second interlude. So I would have jumped out of my seat thinking these guys have improved a lot!!!!

Firstly, you dont belong to that category (who likes something just because it is by IR) - so - light theesukondi 
About many people being honest - honestly, I have come across only few (& you are one among them anyway).
And your reply itself is a testimony of that: "I would have jumped out of my seat thinking these guys have improved a lot!!!!" - attributing compliments to the composer (no matter who he is), and not finding some fault or the other. 
Take it easy guys - i think I am talking out of my observations about 'those' fans I get to meet/see/read who display less reason & more fanatism.
Yawn! bored with this topic - can we discuss anything else.
And by the way, i just read someone appreciating Thedi Vantha and asked how come no one is talking about it. Count me in... I loved that song to the hilt, after repeated listenings yesterday. Arrangements defy IR's age! But then.. most of IR's music has been defying his age anyway, all along his career.
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16th April 2011, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sureshs65
Jai,
Raja with Mohan Babu may not be an earth shaking combination. The last one they did together must have been 'Shiv Shankar'. I don't think it created any great waves. Has a couple of nice songs and one 'kuthu' song which I like. Earlier to that must have been 'Kunti Putrudu' which had some nice songs. They also did one Vamshi movie together,'Detective Narada'. When Raja was at his peak, Mohan Babu was just about trying to turn into a hero from being a villain. I don't recall too many Mohan Babu as hero movies having Raja as the MD.
There is a Mohan Babu (sleazy) film called 'Allari Police' that became infamous back then for having many of its dialogues muted by the censors. It has music by Raaja. There were couple of Tamil tunes and some new tunes in that album: http://www.musicindiaonline.com/#/al...Police__1994_/
None of the Mohan babu-IR combo's caught my fancy somehow. Even Detective Narada is more a Vamsy-IR combo rather than a Mohan Babu-IR combo.
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