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19th April 2011, 11:28 AM
#1741
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Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
That too bala in 2010 in the 3rd test 2nd innings sa were 130/6. If only we bowled better we could have won that test match. Idhukkellam oru aal enna panna mudiyum?. And guess who removed boucher after his 50 and a 100 run partnership, It was tendulkar who caught him plum lbw.
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19th April 2011 11:28 AM
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19th April 2011, 11:32 AM
#1742
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Yeah, feddy and the galling thing is if we suggest this now, it will be derided as hindsight. At that time he was riding on that 169 against a *good* Pakistani attack.
The trouble with that definition is that a *good* Pakistani attack on paper is not necessarily a *good* Pak attack in the field. It really is futile to judge people on performance *only* against Pakistan. The counter to this is everyone else failed and he lifter us from 69/4 but to me in a test match, the conditions and the bowlers are a bigger threat than the situation. Yuvraj can prosper in certain conditions and if he succeeds, be assured that those conditions have prevailed - he is not the kind to adapt to a difficult pitch or quality bowling. It was screaming obvious we needed Sehwag to open.
It was not just Yuvraj's expected failure but also that Dravid-Chopra opened to accomodate Yuvraj - that was really muddled thinking. Chopra-Sehwag worked because Chopra survived till Lunch and Sehwag usually took the score to 100+ by then putting pressure on Aussies. To believe that Chopra-Dravid, especially with Dravid reluctant to open as always, would give us a good start was really really stupid. And I said this before the event, too. I dont blame the team management alone because 90% of Indian Cricket followers found that logical at that time. Very few saw the alternative vision with Sehwag-Chopra opening and Yuvraj dropped. Sometimes, you have to drop the guy who scored 169 in the previous match to succeed in a place like Australia. That needs vision and Kumble didnt have it.
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19th April 2011, 11:34 AM
#1743
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amaidhi amaidhi. I see it the way i viewed the WC final. "If only..." Final la adikkaadhadhunaala it doesnt make him a lesser God. That's not the point, illaya?
2003 Melbourne la Thala evvalo? Onniyume nyabagam illa 

Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
50% full
Seriously what kind of bull shit is this. Ehh. Lack of test series wins in SA, aus eh?. Eppadi oru aal mattum aani puduinga mudiyum? eh?. 1999 =la he was the MOS there (With 3 bad decisions). What abt the fucking team he had?. Easy aa blog la enna mayirayum ezhudhalam!!. 2003, He didn't play well in melbourne but he played out of his skin and honestly if we even had some luck (Thanks bucknor) we should have won the sydney test in 2004. Avvalavu yen, sydney 2008 symonds made 162 not out after being three times out. Some things are in destiny.
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19th April 2011, 11:40 AM
#1744
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2003 melbourne first ball duck or first over duck in the first innings. Caught down the leg side by gilchrist off lee.
2nd innings a 30 or a 40 nga, seria theriala.
But the annoying thing of 2003 melbourne was shewag smashed everybody
. Even when sachin got out in the first day India were comfortably placed at like 320/4 or something. But then next morning a collapse and all out for 369.
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19th April 2011, 11:40 AM
#1745
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Holding Sachin (or any batsman) responsible for not winning a series: Bowling ellam nalla pottu Sachin rendu innings layum sodhappirukkanum (Sachin-a mattum eppadi blame pannalaam ngaradhu oru pakkam irukkattum), illa reachable target chase pannumbodhu fail airukkanum... indha madhiri edhavadhu nadandhucha?
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19th April 2011, 11:41 AM
#1746
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19th April 2011, 11:45 AM
#1747
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2006 sa tour yeah may be sachin had some blame to take. He hit a 44 and 2 more 60's. That was the only tour to sa where thalai didnt hit a ton. He has hit a ton in every other tour before that. Even then we started by winning the first test lost the second and we had an upper hand in the 3rd test only to lose it.
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19th April 2011, 11:52 AM
#1748
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Shewag in general has always played well against Aus. Onnu rendu innings sothapinalum he always blasts big against them. Only the last tour (2010) he didnt do much but that was just a 2 match series.

Originally Posted by
Plum
Yeah, feddy and the galling thing is if we suggest this now, it will be derided as hindsight. At that time he was riding on that 169 against a *good* Pakistani attack.
The trouble with that definition is that a *good* Pakistani attack on paper is not necessarily a *good* Pak attack in the field. It really is futile to judge people on performance *only* against Pakistan. The counter to this is everyone else failed and he lifter us from 69/4 but to me in a test match, the conditions and the bowlers are a bigger threat than the situation. Yuvraj can prosper in certain conditions and if he succeeds, be assured that those conditions have prevailed - he is not the kind to adapt to a difficult pitch or quality bowling. It was screaming obvious we needed Sehwag to open.
It was not just Yuvraj's expected failure but also that Dravid-Chopra opened to accomodate Yuvraj - that was really muddled thinking. Chopra-Sehwag worked because Chopra survived till Lunch and Sehwag usually took the score to 100+ by then putting pressure on Aussies. To believe that Chopra-Dravid, especially with Dravid reluctant to open as always, would give us a good start was really really stupid. And I said this before the event, too. I dont blame the team management alone because 90% of Indian Cricket followers found that logical at that time. Very few saw the alternative vision with Sehwag-Chopra opening and Yuvraj dropped. Sometimes, you have to drop the guy who scored 169 in the previous match to succeed in a place like Australia. That needs vision and Kumble didnt have it.
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19th April 2011, 11:56 AM
#1749
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Aus series - we should have won in both times-nga. We were very unlucky. Me being the harshest Indian team basher naane solren. We were very unlucky in 03 not to win and in 07/
SA yeah - in 06/07 tendulkar had some blame to take. But he really tried hard in 2010 ; thanks to our bowling we just managed to draw the 3rd test.

Originally Posted by
Bala (Karthik)
Holding Sachin (or any batsman) responsible for not winning a series: Bowling ellam nalla pottu Sachin rendu innings layum sodhappirukkanum (Sachin-a mattum eppadi blame pannalaam ngaradhu oru pakkam irukkattum), illa reachable target chase pannumbodhu fail airukkanum... indha madhiri edhavadhu nadandhucha?
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19th April 2011, 11:57 AM
#1750
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"It was not just Yuvraj's expected failure but also that Dravid-Chopra opened to accomodate Yuvraj - that was really muddled thinking. Chopra-Sehwag worked because Chopra survived till Lunch and Sehwag usually took the score to 100+ by then putting pressure on Aussies"
Romba kaalama namma thinking is based purely on survival. Ball-a old aakkaradhu dhaan priority!
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