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23rd April 2011, 12:00 AM
#231
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Originally Posted by
genesis
Wasn't SPB a star singer in TFM before he became popular in TeFM (largely due to Ayiram Nilave Vaa)? It is sad IR had to use substitutes like Mano/MV in the 90s because TeFM kept SPB so busy.
Around that time SPB had some throat problems(blisters due to smoking and incessant singing in 3+languages) too and had to cut down on his singing - a reason why "track" singers became main singers in that period. I dont think Raaja purposefully sidelined anybody from what they do their best. Let us also bear in mind that voices like SPB, KJY and MV are special, close to late 80s and 90s, exectations were always there to use their voices mainly for reigning stars (exception being Kamal who had hit the jackpot with his "track song" Raja kaiyya vecha - Anyone who had echo cassettes of Apoorva SagodharargaL would have had the pleasure of hearing SPB sing Raaja Kaiyya vechchaa).
Apparently, a democracy is a place where numerous elections are held at great cost without issues and with interchangeable candidates.
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23rd April 2011 12:00 AM
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23rd April 2011, 12:11 AM
#232
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Originally Posted by
genesis
substitutes like /MV
What.Are.You.Saying??? Malaysia Vasudevan is a SPB substitute? One of the most outrageous statements in the forum.
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23rd April 2011, 12:26 AM
#233
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I did not notice this at all.
@Genesis - வாழப்பழத்துல ஊசி ஏத்தி பாத்திருக்கேன். ஊசில வாழப்பழத்தை ஏத்தி இப்பம் தான் பாக்குறேன்.
Apparently, a democracy is a place where numerous elections are held at great cost without issues and with interchangeable candidates.
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23rd April 2011, 12:28 AM
#234
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genesis,
SPB was not a 'star singer' even after 'aayiram nilave vaa', as app_eng has mentioned. He came up faster in Telugu and was a well know singer in Telugu singing for Sathyam, Chakravarthy, Ramesh Naidu, KVM et al. In Tamil his growth was slower as app_eng pointed out since the reigning stars like MGR and Sivaji used TMS and Jesudas more.
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23rd April 2011, 02:05 AM
#235
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
What.Are.You.Saying??? Malaysia Vasudevan is a SPB substitute? One of the most outrageous statements in the forum.
I say that again my friend!! MV IS SUBSTITUTE FOR SPB. MV was never a star singer.
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23rd April 2011, 02:09 AM
#236
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Originally Posted by
baroque
remember kuchh toh log kahenge.....amar prem.
Is this an indirect swipe at me??!! (me to know some hindi)
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23rd April 2011, 03:23 AM
#237
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no...
but your girl friend or wife may sing this composition thinking of you (from Salil in this Rag)
o sajnaa barakha bahaara aai...
tum ko pukaare mere, man kaa papeehara
meethii meethii agani mein, jale mora jiyara...
O Sajana.....
Hindustani khamaj.
vinatha.
Last edited by baroque; 23rd April 2011 at 04:41 AM.
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23rd April 2011, 03:29 AM
#238
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oh... app_eng, thanks.
I have been indulging IR & Salil back to back...
charming rag indeed- kamas-khamaj.
Shri.IR should compose compositions of this class to Hindi audiences, they will dig.
Classical music is always trendy and fashionable, it has wide reach.
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23rd April 2011, 04:51 AM
#239
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
The reason for giving the background above is to emphasize how, in a way, the rise of IR helped SPB to get into that formidable position in TFM.
It will be excellent if you can also explain how a formidable force like P.Susheela was sidelined with the rise of IR.
Ella pugazhum IR-aivanukke!!
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23rd April 2011, 05:47 AM
#240
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yeah... ella pughazhum Shri.Ir vukkey.
thanks IR, if we come home with tired or sober mood or joyous, romantic mood, I have gazillion compositions to cuddle with S.P.B.
anyway...
IR vs TMS, their attitude or misunderstanding etc... kahanies attract no interest from some of us.
eppadi veeram, gambeeram etc... sollindu MGR, Sivaji etc... kku TMS was used by previous generation MDs, adhey maadhiri
next generation of actors like Mohan, Kamal etc... arrived now, S.P.B served them with boyish charm and energy. bubbly, romantic, sexy dulcet feeling etc..
Shri.IR did not use TMS. time to move on...... avvalavudhaan.
But he used Susheela for many many songs though her number of songs are less than Janu.
Even Vani too sang less number of songs but Shri.IR gave Vani some of the finest and versatile compositions from Classical, folk to rock & roll.
vinatha.
Last edited by baroque; 23rd April 2011 at 06:24 AM.
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