The Golden Era of Dr.IR and Dr.SPB

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Param,
'thEn sindhudhE vAnam' - the song is from a movie 'ponnukku thanga manasu' and the MD was G K Venkatesh with Ilayaraja as his assistant. So, IR had some supportive role for that song (like, say, playing guitar or may be making arrangements).

'thEn sindhudhE vAnam' is also the name of a movie that came later with V Kumar as composer. It had the piano beauty 'unnidam mayangukiREn' by KJY.

Many get confused with these two facts related to 'thEn sindhudhE vAnam'

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Yes, sadhurangam was by V Kumar. It had the song 'madhanORchavam', a replica of a Hindi hit song

[V_S]

Thanks App for 'Sorgam Madhuvile'. You statistics is amazing! One of my all time favorite of IR and SPB. No one other than SPB can sing this song. Vibrant energy in the song. Every song in this movie (Aazha kadalil, Ore Idam, Kada Thengaayo) is stunning. I remember I watching this movie atleast 3 times especially for the songs, Kamal and that english girl.

PS: Since this song is mainly about singing quality, I am reminded of this. I happened to watch Super singer 3 on Vijay TV (Bharati Raja round). One brilliant singer (Sai Charan) was singing 'Chotta chotta nanaiyuthu Tajmahal', which was originally sung by Srinivas. Then Srinivas was requested to sing that song. I can't believe he can't sing his own song in the same scale (he himself said, I don't have that range now. He had to bring down the scale) and was struggling like anything. Now SPB is around 64 or so and still I certainly believe he can sing that song with amazing ease. And still we are hearing 'Ayyayo' kind of gems (from Aadukalam). Even KJY for that matter only recently we are seeing some strains (still at 70 he is able to sing for Pazhassi and Nandhalala). But Vijay Yesudas can't sing his father's song (when KJY would have sung those songs in his 50's or 60's) at his young age. Unni is already struggling now. There are many such examples. Very sad to hear the current singing scenario.

[PARAMASHIVAN]

Param,
'thEn sindhudhE vAnam' - the song is from a movie 'ponnukku thanga manasu' and the MD was G K Venkatesh with Ilayaraja as his assistant. So, IR had some supportive role for that song (like, say, playing guitar or may be making arrangements).

'thEn sindhudhE vAnam' is also the name of a movie that came later with V Kumar as composer. It had the piano beauty 'unnidam mayangukiREn' by KJY.

Many get confused with these two facts related to 'thEn sindhudhE vAnam'

thanks for the clarification app anneh

[PARAMASHIVAN]

Yes, sadhurangam was by V Kumar. It had the song 'madhanORchavam', a replica of a Hindi hit song

Thought So

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Thank you V_S, most of the stats are effect of googling the net apart from past tfmpage discussions. Ofcourse, we should be thankful for other websites like thiraippadal, dhool & rakkamma whom I refer to refresh the memory. There's also discography in wikipedia which can be useful to fill some gaps.

Post 1980, I was following IR's output closely for a few years. Prior to that, initially it was love for those songs and progressively the connect with the MD.

And I'm ever thankful for my "time-off-from-movie-watching", which helped building the bond with TFM solely through audio. Had I watched those horrors that killed some great songs of IR, such a bond wouldn't have been possible

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#15 கண்மணியே காதல் என்பது கற்பனையோ காவியமோ கண் வரைந்த ஓவியமோ
(ஆறிலிருந்து அறுபது வரை, 1979)

What a year for the SPB-IR combo!

It included songs for Sivaji. And a song for Bharathiraja. And sweeties for I V Sasi.

While I don't see any SPB-IR song for Kamal (well, MSV had his magnum opus ninaiththAlE inikkum where KH-SPB combo soared high), there were a few evergreen numbers for Rajinikanth. One of them is this, that takes the first slot for the year simply due to the movie's name (alphabetically ahead, AA).

I don't remember which came first - this one or vAn mEghangaLE of pudhiya vArppukaL - both are of the same year and had that mELam-nAdhaswaran sound for marriage in the interludes, which was quite interesting as it broke into songs that had otherwise different "feel". (IR had it later for poththi vachcha malliga mottu too).

SJ excels in this song with her exactly matching performance with SPB (well, scoring over him in the first interlude with her classic humming). I believe 1979 was the decisive year when this pair became #1 for me, with this song and PKB, later to come

[Plum]

1. Madhanorchavam - visu wrote the movie. He later remade it himself as thirumathi oru vegumathi (I think). SV Sekar played Rajini's role . And faramu, that was Pramila not Sripriya
2. Original of the song is maana ho tum. Surprise, surprise, it's Bappi Lahiri
3. The mimicry in kadavuL amaithu vaitha mEdai was done by Sadan, a MsV troupe regular.

[groucho070]

One clarification on the technique behind Kanmaniyee Kathal enbadhu.

Did they do cut paste job, because it's really tough to do breathing part "...karpanaiyoo kaviyamoo kanvaraintha oviyamoo (supposed breathing part) ettanai ettanai....?

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One clarification on the technique behind Kanmaniyee Kathal enbadhu.

Did they do cut paste job, because it's really tough to do breathing part "...karpanaiyoo kaviyamoo kanvaraintha oviyamoo (supposed breathing part) ettanai ettanai....?

Me too always wondered the same way as the portion "eththanai eththanai" is a little "different sounding" (kind of discontinuity) from the preceding part.

In any case, there was superimposition of two versions of the same singer (different octaves I think or may be just different levels) and there was some play with the available tech in Madras at that point of time