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1st June 2011, 09:40 PM
#641
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App Anna
Good to hear about your younger days ,and you are the back bone of this thread now
, by the way , this bell bottom thing came back to Fashion in UK around 2002 till 2008, and I was a big Fan of them during my Uni days, esp the Jeans and Trousers, since 2008 they have disappeared here in UK, they introduced Jeans called Skinny, it is so tight and disgusting, it looks like girls jeans
Om Namaste astu Bhagavan Vishveshvaraya Mahadevaya Triambakaya Tripurantakaya Trikalagni kalaya kalagnirudraya Neelakanthaya Mrutyunjayaya Sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya Shriman Mahadevaya Namah Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye
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1st June 2011 09:40 PM
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1st June 2011, 11:07 PM
#642
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
#41 பேரைச்சொல்லவா, அது நியாயமாகுமா?
(குரு, 1980 )
Another grand bass-guitar boosted album in the IR-IV Sasi combo! Supposedly a remake of Hindi film "Jugnu" with Kamal -Sridevi. I watched the movie many years later in the college audi - totally unimpressive ordinary masAlA and IR was too generous is gifting this many SJ wonders...(nAn vaNangukiREn, enthan kaNNil EzhulagangaL are both capable of making into any list that TFM lovers pick).
Two things that made me happy while watching the movie were
a) Title card had only SPB-SJ as singers
b) the mridhangam / whistle combo theme BGM
While pEraichchollavA is average on screen, musically it's so rich! 30 years after its arrival, even now it goes on loop on some days in my car - apart from the strong bass, the strings / wind instruments in the interludes are quite mesmerizing! So are the sweet voices of SPB & SJ and their brilliant singing that makes one feel so close to them!
I have a theory - Guru initially probably had two small size vinyl disks that were independently released - one with pEraichchollavA, nAn vaNangukiREn, AdungaL pAdungaL & enthan kaNNil & the other with paRanthAlum vidamAttEn, mAmanukkupparamakkudi, AdungaL pAdungaL another version and may be a repeat. The reason why I say this is because I've never heard 'paRanthAlum vida mAttEn' on AIR, even though that was my top fav when this movie songs arrived. They played 'pEraichchollavA' very frequently, however.
Perai chollava, aadungal and paranthalum - IR's majesty in a blockbuster film that ran and ran and ran in chennai alone!
'perai chollava' - i cant think of any other MD embellishing the romantic side of a young Kamal the way IR has done, time and again!
if you listen to a very good recording of 'perai chollava' , you can understand the technical finnesse accomplished by IR with not a single note jarring and the western classical elements justifiably used in appropriate moments laced throughout the track - the way the tune at 'orayiram thenaarugal vandhana' morphs into a derivative sub-tune 'neeraaduvom dhinamum neendhuvom' and the strings cascading down into a lower scale 'valley' immediately at the beginning of the 1st interlude!
such rich, lush musical imagery was 'sodhappufied' on screen notwithstanding the onscreen chemistry between Kamal and Sri Devi!
i often wonder/wish if IR was as talented being a director as a music director, only he could have probably done justice directing his own songs!
many of his orchestrations evoke such sophisticated imagery, it is impossible to picturise them with the same level of sophistication - maybe Stanley Kulbrick born in india could have done justice! Kamal did justice to a great extent
imagine Stanley Kulbrick directing a duet!
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep"
-Robert Frost
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2nd June 2011, 02:32 AM
#643
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around 1980 -1981 rt ... under 8th grade , சினிமா எல்லாம் கெடையாது... காந்தி around 83 or சிந்து பைரவி or நினைவெல்லாம் நித்யா one or two movies in a year அழைச்சுண்டு போவா எங்க அம்மா, அதுவும் பயங்கர திட்டு உண்டு வேற...
no big deal
இளையராஜா பாடல்கள் கெடைக்குமே, தேங்க்ஸ் to loudஸ்பீக்கர் culture
எங்க பால் வாங்கற கோனார் வீட்டு சந்து டீ கடை உபயம்...
ஜானு has sung different styles of compositions in குரு.
remember classical சுத்த தன்யாசி'ச நான் வணங்குகிறேன் சபையிலே .....
erotic இளையராஜா's எந்தன் கண்ணில்....
டீசிங், சவால் பாடல் பறந்தாலும் விடமாட்டேன்.....what a show with ராஜா and பாலா. ஜானு is unmatchable
you will be covering them , elaborating on rock elements etc ..., app _eng
பேரைச்சொல்லவா.....masterpiece from இளையராஜா.
கமலஹாசன் or ஸ்ரீதேவி or X or Y etc ... who needs visual .
இளையராஜா with பாலா & ஜானு ..HURRAY
will treat myself அட் தி end of தி day ...
spring showers at San Jose ,
forever ரொமாண்டிக் பாலா with his கேர்ள் ஜானு...life heavenly
thanks
vinatha.
Last edited by baroque; 2nd June 2011 at 02:34 AM.
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2nd June 2011, 07:07 AM
#644
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
ஆமாம், வரும்போதே "வானம் எனக்கொரு போதி மரம்"னு சொன்னார்
VM was a BR intro (IIRC, BR was producer-director of nizhalgaL, it was a "Manoj Creations" movie).
Script by the later director Manivannan, so you can expect a little bit of blood in it. Not that BR is free of violence.
" நல்ல படம் , சுமாரான படம் என்பதையெல்லாம் தாண்டியவர் நடிகர் திலகம் . சிவாஜி படம் தோற்கலாம் ..சிவாஜி தோற்பதில்லை." - Joe Milton.
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2nd June 2011, 08:56 PM
#645
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#42 பறந்தாலும் விட மாட்டேன்
(குரு, 1980 )
Like baroque said, a song that must be covered (though I'm not qualified to talk about the "rock" & such elements
) !
A song that had earned its special place with me right from its "way-ahead-of-its-time-arrival" until now!
As mentioned earlier in another thread, song that was first-time-heard from a co-passenger's cassette player in the bus from vaththalakkundu (Batlagundu as called by British) to kodaikkAnal - I can feel the breeze of that day even now! With that 'kooNdilE kiLiyallE konjippEsa' konjal by Janaki and the kurumbu, konjal flute passages thru out, it was an instant winner!
A song which I yearned to listen from radio at the time of release but didn't happen (possibly) due to non-availability on the disk at AIR. They played only the other hits.
Unlike other albums of those days which reached IOKS much before the film's release in India or SL, Guru disk that had paRanthAlum vida mAttEn didn't make it there too. So, no opportunity of listening to the song from IOKS as well. (IOKS played the song much later after the movie got released in SL, but it was a different version of the song - possibly copy / paste from the movie, it didn't have the flute folk portion in the second interlude and was jumpy - I didn't like that kind of chopping
)
Bottomline, with no cassette player at home, listening to this number was left to sheer chance (bus trips & loudspeaker casts from unknown / unexpected sources). When my 5 yr old sometimes demands my phone to watch a Disney Tinkerbell youtube for eating food, I wonder how much the world has changed!
Raja's chords, new toys, strings & flute with strong bass score is such a delight! SPB & SJ have all kinds of kuRumbu in the song (and the flight portions of the on-screen thingy aren't too bad either, given the time of arrival, though one may find it funny today...Sureshji may be able to tell whether this song was மூ.ஆ.மு or மூ.ஆ.பி
)...SJ's englees portions are ofcourse funny and create smile each time I listen ("let me see what you can do")
Last edited by app_engine; 2nd June 2011 at 08:59 PM.
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2nd June 2011, 08:59 PM
#646
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App anna
I remember few scenes of Guru where kamal tries to steal something from an Exhibition sort of thing, was this film a hit those days ?
Om Namaste astu Bhagavan Vishveshvaraya Mahadevaya Triambakaya Tripurantakaya Trikalagni kalaya kalagnirudraya Neelakanthaya Mrutyunjayaya Sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya Shriman Mahadevaya Namah Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye
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2nd June 2011, 09:10 PM
#647
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Originally Posted by
PARAMASHIVAN
App anna
was this film a hit those days ?

According to irir123,
Perai chollava, aadungal and paranthalum - IR's majesty in a blockbuster film that ran and ran and ran in chennai alone!
IIRC, in smaller towns too it had decent run.
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2nd June 2011, 09:12 PM
#648
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Om Namaste astu Bhagavan Vishveshvaraya Mahadevaya Triambakaya Tripurantakaya Trikalagni kalaya kalagnirudraya Neelakanthaya Mrutyunjayaya Sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya Shriman Mahadevaya Namah Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye
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2nd June 2011, 09:36 PM
#649
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irir123,
Nice to see that app_eng post has struck a chord in you that we are seeing a long post from you after a long time. Wonderful description of the song.
app_eng,
I did not follow Sreedevi so closely but I feel this Sreedevi is மூ.ஆ.மு
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3rd June 2011, 07:57 AM
#650
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This song was played by our radio station. Not sure Singapore or Malaysia, but was certainly played in this part of the world. One of those long hair/short hair. Zappaesque/smaller moustache films Kamal made those days.
" நல்ல படம் , சுமாரான படம் என்பதையெல்லாம் தாண்டியவர் நடிகர் திலகம் . சிவாஜி படம் தோற்கலாம் ..சிவாஜி தோற்பதில்லை." - Joe Milton.
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