COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY - PART2

[music man]

yes, not not mozart beethoven bach chopin, not Sri Thyagaraja Swami, Muthuswami Dikshithar, Shyama Shastri.
I was only refering to Tamil film music industry.

NOV Sir!!! Who knows..Even Mozart, Beethoven,Bach, Chopin and own carnatic and hindustani gurus will have their own inspirations...Those days, our composers took inspirations from their own folk music....Neenga solra western composers ellaarum avanga country music aalaa inspire aanavanga thaan....

[ajaybaskar]

Hi all!!

First of all each and every composer have their own inspirations. ARR had a few..He followed Vangelis, Dave Grusnin, Peter Gabriel and Pat Metheny very closely...Listen to the arrangements in "Netrillaatha Maatram" and Pat Metheny's "Last Train Home"...This is the classic case of inspiration....and you will be surprised to hear the similar arrangements...

Its very true, ARR has never copied a song fully and blatantly like his peers...There are sure inspirations..He is a clever musician who wanted to sound different and he has at times used tricks like taking the chord structure of a song and slightly modify it and fitting a new tune to it..The starting chord structure and beats of "Rhythm of Pride Lands" and "Poo Pookum oosai are similar..He creates a new tune out of no where...And there is this commercial loop thing..ARR himself admitted in one of his old interviews that he made an error by using the loop that Dr. Alban had used in his "Om We Rembwe"....Only after that, he started building his own loops..and expanded his library...

If one observes the songs, "Thenmerku Paruva Kaatru, Mukkaabula and Sundaraa(Super Police)" songs, it all had the same beats and the underlying chords pattern of the " Om We Rembwe" song..Here lies the brilliance of the composer...he has created a brilliant atmosphere in all the three songs...

If one follows the music of Indian film music, one can find lots and lots of songs with same beats but with extra ordinary tunes..IR experimented with mind blowing tunes and arrangements but used the same beat (predominant tabla usage) for many songs...There is nothing wrong in it...and when comes to western beats, people claim it to be a copy...There are lot of commercial loops and royalty free loops available in the internet and available with DAWs that anyone can use for their creations..There are several songs we hear daily and well immersed in our mind, and when composing, these permutations and combinations result in familiar tunes...After all music has only seven swaras....Really pity the composers...Lets enjoy the songs and surely ARR is a legend and has proved a lot and it will be very unfair to compare him to GVP, HJ and DSP......

ஒரு வார்த்தையில் சொல்லவேண்டுமானால் 'நச்'.

[SoftSword]

NOV Sir!!! Who knows..Even Mozart, Beethoven,Bach, Chopin and own carnatic and hindustani gurus will have their own inspirations...Those days, our composers took inspirations from their own folk music....Neenga solra western composers ellaarum avanga country music aalaa inspire aanavanga thaan....

rendu murai explain panniyum purinjukkalaenaa etthana murai explain pannaalum purinjukkamaattaanga musicman...

[sathya_1979]

All our knowledge is acquired knowledge. It is the application that separates the great from others.

[Plum]

No, no Sathya. nAnlAm poRandhappOvE Englis-la pisthu. Infact, the first word I uttered was "mummy" not amma. That's why everyone except me is a copycat in the world. nInga ellOrumE amma-nu dhAn modha word solli irukkInga

[NOV]

still living in denial I see.... no matter whether you get annoyed, upset, disappointed, the fact remains...

when it comes to your favourites, its inspiration
all others, its copy

let us not reinvent the wheel

[NOV]

still living in denial I see.... no matter whether you get annoyed, upset, disappointed, the fact remains...

when it comes to your favourites, its inspiration
all others, its copy

let us not reinvent the wheel

[NOV]

ok, for a change, here is Vijay Anthony's copy/inspiration

[NOV]

and the hugely popular aval appadi ondrum azhagillai

[NormalMan]

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...ust/100811.asp