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11th August 2011, 10:19 PM
#2051
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Kaatu vazhi seems like the perfect anthem for renunciation of material life; the ominous orchestration and Raja’s vocals too back this beautifully. Tippu’s deeply repentant Unna pol and Sriram Parthasarathy’s personally remorseful Enna pol both hold the same tune in fascinatingly different shades. Aanukkulla latchanangal seems tame in comparison; standard Raja melody, but the way Haricharan enters is a nice touch. Manicka Vinayagam recites Raja’s philosophical verses amidst mesmerizing orchestration in Neeral udal kazhuvi, while Kula deivam is the odd one out, refurbished from 1990. Thandavakkone seems reflective of Ilayaraja’s state of mind and hence makes for an engrossing listen.
source:milliblog
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11th August 2011 10:19 PM
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12th August 2011, 12:10 AM
#2052
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Thanks Sureshji, Sunil and Vinatha.
I still could not understand what Karthik (milliblog) expects from Raja to give more than 200.
The last one he gave was for Azhagar malai which was a surprise. I don't think it was that great, compared to masterpieces like Paa, Pazhassi raja, Ponnar shankar, Bhagyadevatha or Nandhalala. Unlike you Sunil, I never expected he would give more than 100 for this soundtrack having seen his history. I can tell now what kind of music Sunil likes.
But still could not decipher what he likes. Atleast as a Raja fan or a listener who exposed to Raja, one would atleast like the above listed ones without doubt. Anyway it's his opinion, I respect that.
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12th August 2011, 05:48 AM
#2053
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I am seeing a pattern in recent times. Somehow, Madurai/Rural themes have become a permanent stay in TFI. Countless films keep on coming non stop. Movies like Virumaandi/Paruthiveeran/Subramanyaburam etc started fueling it. As u can see all 3 movies has Raja touch! While virumaandi had him directly other two and countless movies used his bgm as is and his influence/pattern. Added to that, most of the new directors generally come from villages who are heavy influenced by Rural Raja music of 80s and so on. As they started using his BGM, some of them slowly went directly to him. Nandalala, Azagarsami, Thandavakone are results of this. There are unsuccessful attempts lile Ahagar Malai etc too. No wonder most of these directors are putting Raja's Music in high pedestal, while talking abt the film. Some of the directore like suka of Sengaathu boomiyile are also music knowledgeable persons, so the expectations are high for new reasons! There IS a business for Raja's rural music.
As an odd, raja gave ultimate songs for Ponnas sankar for which, i didnt see the team talking high about music(which is the ONLY good thing in the film)
In kerala, Raja is being asked to compose for period films like Viswa thulasi and Pazhassi raja. From telugu industry there is mythology/spiritual film Rama Rajyam. few months before there was a film gaayam which had good songs. Some time before, Raja did a Kannada movie which was not rual i think, kind of urban gangster film. He gave modern music...
There are hindi ventures then and there, mainly from Ram gopal varma and there is a new film waiting, which is not from these directors!
After long time, a Marathi film is in for Sir's composition.
One thing is, wherever he goes, there is umpteen respect for the talent, aura and pristine which surrounds Raja. Everyone are elated for having his compositions. Happy tears all over...
Its high time someone like suresh make a list of all his works for the past 5 years....
So what does I try to imply by saying all this?!? Nothing specific, அதிகாலை 5 மணிக்கு எழுந்துவிட்டேன், ஏதோ தோணுச்சி எழுதிட்டேன்
(kindly correct factual errors!)
Last edited by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar; 12th August 2011 at 05:51 AM.
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12th August 2011, 06:05 AM
#2054
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BTW, is neeral udal kazhuvi the first time thalaivar has attempted a song that has such dark overtones? I dunt remember a song from thalaivar even in the olden days which has such dark overtones in the orchestration. Maybe Vaarthai Thavari Vittai from Sethu but it was more of sadness. This one has anger and pain reflected strongly in the orchestration. Not sure if anyone felt this, but when i listened to the song more than three times, i could feel my mind feeling abit more angsty and uneasy.
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12th August 2011, 08:07 AM
#2055
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
(kindly correct factual errors!)
sengAththu bhoomiyilE is not the Suka movie.
Suka has done 'padiththuRai', music of which is the most expected one for me - going by the director's musical knowledge / taste.
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12th August 2011, 09:02 AM
#2056
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
So what does I try to imply by saying all this?!? Nothing specific, அதிகாலை 5 மணிக்கு எழுந்துவிட்டேன், ஏதோ தோணுச்சி எழுதிட்டேன்
(kindly correct factual errors!)
unga approach enakku pidichirukku
Anyway, as app pointed out Suka's movie is 'Padithurai'. Not sure when that will release. Yes, it will be nice if we can collate what he has done the last 5 yrs and I feel he has done a lot, with a lot of variety. As of now, I want to do some writing on his late 90s work, which I am discovering now and am amazed as to how I missed some of these superb songs. So expect something on the lines of a 90s rant sometime in the near future 
Hulk: You are right. I too haven't heard anything as dark from him. The way he moves the tune, the way he orchestrates, everything enhances this sombre dark mood very effectively.
V_S: As you said, that is Karthiks right to his opinion. As far as Raja is concerned, I generally have the attitude of 'why worry' as regards to reviews. I don't expect anything great given that even hard core Raja fans who are still stuck in the 80s rarely give Raja's new work a sympathetic ear.
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12th August 2011, 09:07 AM
#2057
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நீரால் உடல்கழுவி நித்தம்நித மூவேளை
சோறால் குடல்கழுவும் சோம்ப பிறவிமலை
சேறாம் இடர்கழுவ சேர்ந்தாயே அண்ணலடி
மாறாச் சுடர் தழுவவே.
நாறென வெள்லெலும்பை நன்கிணைத்து கட்டிவைத்து
நாறிடும் மூட்டைச் சதையொட்டி நீர்க்குருதிச்
சேரனதான எண்சான் உடம்பில் உன் நினைவே
சீருரும் தாமரை யாம்.
தொப்புள் கொடிபுடிச்சி தொத்திவந்த இப்பிறப்பு
எப்ப தொடக்கியதோ எப்போ தடங்கிடுமோ
செப்பவே யாரிருக்கா செப்பனிடா பாதையிலே
செப்பாமே போகுதே தப்பு.
எம்பாவக் கப்பலில் எங்கோ புறப்பட்டோம்
சம்சாரக் கடலில் சருகாய் இடர்ப்பட்டோம்
வெம்பினை காத்து வெரட்டுதே எம்மையே
தம்மபயம் எந்தருளை தா.
நான் கேட்டு உள்வாங்கியதை கொடுத்திருக்கிறேன். பிழையிருந்தால் திருத்தலாம். அடிக்கடி கேட்டு, இருக்கும் நான்கு வெண்பாக்களில் மூன்று (1, 3, 4) மனப்பாடம் ஆகிவிட்டது.
Last edited by venkkiram; 12th August 2011 at 09:28 PM.
சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...
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12th August 2011, 09:18 AM
#2058
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Diamond Hubber
தீவிர சைவ மார்க்கத்தில் ராஜா தன்னை முழுதாக ஆட்படுத்திக் கொண்டதால், சித்தர்களின் எண்ணங்களோடு ஒன்றிப் போகிறார். குணா படத்தில் வந்த "அப்பனென்றும் அம்மையென்றும்.." பாடல் வரிகளின் உச்சக் கட்டமே "நீரால் உடல் கழுவி..". லௌகிக வாழ்க்கையை வெறுத்து, துறவறத்தை நோக்கி நடைபோடும் வரிகள். பாடலின் பின்னணி இசையும் ஒருவித அமானுஷ்ய உணர்வை அள்ளித் தெளிக்கிறது. வெண்பாவில் வடித்த முயற்சி தமிழ்த் திரையுலகத்திற்கு புதியது என நினைக்கிறேன். வாழ்த்துக்கள். இதற்கு முன்னர் யாரேனும் வெண்பா வகைப் பாடல்களை எழுதி அது இசையமைக்கப்பட்டிருந்தால் குறிப்பிடவும்.
சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...
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12th August 2011, 10:13 AM
#2059
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Veteran Hubber
Sureshji, yes I agree with you.
venkki, Thank you for the lyrics and for your excellent insight and analysis!
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12th August 2011, 10:57 AM
#2060
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Thanks for the lyrics Venki. As V_S says, nice insights as well.
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