"in 2000s yuvan has started the trend of youth based music"
Yuvan hasn't started any trend. Youth based music was given in early and mid 90's by ARR like Kadhalan, Thiruda Thiruda, Rangeela, Kadhal Desam. Even post 2000 the best youth based music was AE and Boys. Yuvan is not even poor man's ARR yet. The only trend post 2000 is Dapankuthu which is revived by VS.
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Cool down. It takes time and reasoning to understand. I am HC IR fan and personally enjoyed lot of ARR albums,but due to the "Ego" we have developed, I always bashed ARR. After TIS release (ARR turned up to TIS meeting with in 24 hrs of meeting, who would do this man, especially considering the height he is in right now) I am more open on criticizing/appreciating ARR albums.
Also, please dont call ARR Mozar of Asia. The way I see it
Bach is Venice's Illayaraja
So ARR will also be unique in his own way and oneday ppl will call
Mozar is Venice's ARR
So... stay cool.
Having said that, please dont start Mozart vs Bach war.
support anyone, I dont mind. IR is a Maestro and the whole tamilnadu knows about him. Being an ardent fan of ARR, I cant lend my ears quiet of someone bashing ARR MOZART OF ASIA & making fun of it. I really pity you saying that IR himself cannot be called as MozOAsia, which shows yr ignorance.
Note that title was not given by me or any ARR fan. He has gained to that level for his diverse compositions,versatility which broke all linguistic barriers. Even today there are so many fans all over in north india, srilanka, pakistan, bangladesh, and middleeast countries listen to his album so passionately not even knowing one word in tamil. None of the producer or any audio company(Sony) will hesitate/regret to sign ARR .
Is Media giving more hype to ARR? Laughing Laughing
Do you know ARR is working on TLOR Stage version which none can even dream of it. Is it bcoz of the media hype?
Do you know that he has sold millions of albums similar to MJ, Britney Spears, Madonna etc. Is it bcoz of the media hype?
Do you know that he is doing a 3rd Dimension World Tour Conert in UK, Australia, India, USA, Canada, Srilanka & Bangladesh.
Is it bcoz of the media hype?
He has won 4 national awards, 17 filmfare awards etc in just 13 yrs which none of the MD has got yet. Is it bcoz of the media hype? http://www.geocities.com/musicalrahman/awards.html
He has got Padmashree honours. Is it bcoz of the media hype?
Did you hear Airtel ring tone and you know how ppl went crazy towards it? Is it bcoz of the media hype?
http://www.airtelworld.com/airworld_downloads_ads.jsp (THE MAKING OF AIRTEL RINGTONE)
Do you know he has composed for Bombay dreams, WOHE (Chinese), & an album with Vaneesa Mae (violinist).
http://www.time.com/time/columnist/c...3198-1,00.html
http://www.sonyclassics.com/warriors...ahman_bio.html
http://www.vanessa-mae.nu/choreography.htm
Its not fair you pick someone of similiar or more talented (in achievements too) to bash (ignorantly) in favour of your fav MD when really drowning.
Thats the reason why I invited you here & also to get clarified:
R u a KH fa
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am i ignorant!!? Mozart has composed 7 symphonies.think now u will realise where IR and ARR will stand compared to mozart.even IR has accepted he can be nowhere near the legendary mozart in the thiruvasakam function held recently<i was actually there in that unction>so comparing IR,ARR to mozart is higly ridiculous and shows ur ignorance.atleast there is some sense in comparing IR but no way ARR.
i only said the media hype is a little too much for him and never said he lacks talent.all these 3d concerts,TLOR stage,vanessa mae,chinese bla bla can be done even by IR.only thing is he lacks initiative and never like too much praise on him.also he is a higly egoistic charcter and never get along with anybody easily.otherwise he wud have done thousands of such concerts anywgere in the world.eveybody knows how IR's albums sold in 80's.he was a king during that time.awards cannot judge a person.even MGR has won national award.wht do u say on that?in thiose days there was no media dominance.so people in bombay or london cud never get to know about IR's works but thesedays u know how media plays an important role in promoting music.latest songs with videos r shown in sun,ktv etc right away anywhere in the world.thats how peple in north cud recognise arr's works.whereas IR had no such media promotions those days.ellathayium keboard'la sequence panni vaasikradhu paeriya vishayam illa.he has to laern to use pianos,violins etc.natural instruments'la vara sweetness keyboard'la ennikum varadhu.u know how IR composes he sits up and write notes for any songs without even playing them.u can check out this website to know more on what ir has contributed http://www.raajangahm.com/irbio.html
arr is a talented musician,ir is a musical genious,mozart is a musical legend.first understand this difference between them.BTW ia m a hardcore kamal fan.y?r u arajini fan?do u want another heated arguement.lets not do that.they r all talented and earn praise,awards and money for thier works.r they going to give part of their salary to us bcos we support them.so lets not fight.lets not have a heated arguement."we can never win an arguement"
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Cool down. It takes time and reasoning to understand. I am HC IR fan and personally enjoyed lot of ARR albums,but due to the "Ego" we have developed, I always bashed ARR. After TIS release (ARR turned up to TIS meeting with in 24 hrs of meeting, who would do this man, especially considering the height he is in right now) I am more open on criticizing/appreciating ARR albums.
Also, please dont call ARR Mozar of Asia. The way I see it
Bach is Venice's Illayaraja
So ARR will also be unique in his own way and oneday ppl will call
Mozar is Venice's ARR
So... stay cool.
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"mozart is venice's arr"
just kidding naa????
Why not? Just listen to Mozart albums and ARR albums. If the former makes you happy, keep buying Mozart albums.Originally Posted by karthik_sa2
"mozart is venice's arr"
just kidding naa????
Mozart is probably the god of music,but for millions of Tamil people IR and ARR are god. I am "pachchai" thamilan.
What has IR done after the National media started recognizing South Indians? He was quite happy to score for village themed movies. Nobody cuffed him, he could have very well made something like HTNI. He's quite a temperamental person and sometimes hits so low on motivation which reflects in his work. That was the reason Media ignored him. But when he makes TIS the media is overwhelmingly supportive. If IR wants his share of National media space he must give what they want like a Dilse, Taal or Laagan or come up with some amazing Orchestral work. There's nothing to complain about lack of promotion/hype when he scores for Thankar Bachan, Bala and others.
Don't look down on ARR who worked hard to reach where he is today. There's no free lunch, even if it's IR!
Karthik!, reg KH fan,
I will never get into any other threads except ARR when there is a necessity to put some valuable points on ARR.
There is a false allegations everywhere that only Kamal & Co are more curios to bash ARR. Except Vasanth_luv everyone here proves it again and again. Even I have met many KH fans personally. Its really strange how you ppl can accept KH taking inspiration from HW movies and on the other side supporting only folk music and natural instruments (id't understand what do u mean by natural instruments). When he does, it is acceptable. If anyothers attemps, thats a crime. Right! Thats why I asked.
Pls dont bring Rajni Vs kamal here and you are always welcome to discuss about ARR & any other MD's in this thread. List me your fav's of MSV, IR, or any.....
njv! he will never understand.
He dont even know what is the scope of a MD in indian film industry & only at a later stage IR has come to compose for a symphony doing film music for 25+ years. Do you mean to say that in these 13 years the media is biased praising only ARR & ignored IR. Isnt he still in the race?
The comparison of Mozart & ARR is only the fame, a musical revolution created at an early stage what ARR has achieved in a short duration and for his diverse compositions, experimenting skills and nothing to do with symphonies.
Have you ever heard 24 genres of music what only ARR have composed in India?
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group.../message/52340
Roja was rated among Top Ten Best Film Soundtracks in Times magazines.
http://www.time.com/time/2005/100mov...tracks,00.html
Above all, I will be proud to say how appropriate to compare ARR with Mozart on the following quotes
"Scientists have proved that listening to Mozart makes you more intelligent " (True Indeed).
dont make this thread die its an interesting thread.
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