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					4th January 2012, 03:27 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Kallis has improved from what he was to what he is now. I agree that he can't be compared to Sachin and I wont do that. But he is someone who can be trusted and he hardly fails when the team is in huge pressure. I am talking more about post 2003-04 Kallis. And how much you are going to give credit for his bowling. Honestly you need to add it along with his batting statistics when we are talking about "Best players". We have to understand this batting stats is along with what he has acheived with the ball.
 
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					4th January 2012, 04:15 PM
				
			
			
				
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					4th January 2012, 05:31 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Rajarasigan
 
 This is Kallis's  1st Century againts SL BTW 
 
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						Last edited by PARAMASHIVAN; 4th January 2012 at 07:30 PM.
					
					
				 Om Namaste astu Bhagavan Vishveshvaraya Mahadevaya Triambakaya Tripurantakaya Trikalagni kalaya kalagnirudraya Neelakanthaya Mrutyunjayaya Sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya Shriman Mahadevaya Namah Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye 
 
 
 
 
 
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					4th January 2012, 05:52 PM
				
			
			
				
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							His bowling is never in the league of Botham, Hadlee, Imran and Kapil, forget Sobers: actually, Sobers' bowling itself is below Imran and Hadlee, possibly Botham I guess. As an all-rounder, I'd take Botham or Imran any day over him, let alone Sobers. All-round skills are a bit smokescreen - he wouldn't make the team on bowling skills alone for most of his career. Not just minnow basher - any bad ball he'll punish. Even if Dale Steyn bowls 5 snorters and the sixth one a loose ball, he'll cash in. This is his strength - we love SRT, BCL, even RTP mainyl because they can make good balls look bad. This is what is lacking in him - what annoys is he willl never miss out on minnows or bad balls
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					4th January 2012, 06:22 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
 what annoys is he willl never miss out on minnows or bad balls 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
 All-round skills are a bit smokescreen - he wouldn't make the team on bowling skills alone for most of his career. 
 
 
 He wouldn't make the SA team perhaps. But he'd make many other teams on his bowling skills.
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					4th January 2012, 06:32 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Rarely is he exciting to watch but he is highly dependable. All rounder-la Cairns, Afridi paththi ellAm pEsura aLavukku kooda ivarai paththi pEsuradhillai. Which is too much.
						 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					4th January 2012, 06:59 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Plum, to play out 5 snorters from Steyn gun is a skill..before his stress fracture Kallis was nippy and would have made most of the test sides as a strike bowler except OZ/Pak.. as a batsman he doesn't check all the boxes to be ATG  as a package none like him over last 2 decades. as a package none like him over last 2 decades.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					4th January 2012, 07:29 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Yes, Sobersukkum mElEnnu adi pOdaRAnga. Adhukku dhaan pre-emption. Sobers, Imran, Botham, Kapil. Appuram dhaan these flows. I don't know about Keith Miller - but he is highly respected. Enakku therinju naan sonna order dhaan. I haven't seen Sobers play but it is not hard to even guess his quality from the accounts written of him. Raathri 3 mani varaikkin thanni adichittu kaalaila vandhu century adippaaram. Ippo irukkara velavaasila mudiyumA?
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					4th January 2012, 08:26 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Posting this to get over Sydney gloom..have always loled whenever Kallis name props up in ATG discussions..one major 
 contributor is this article by a Boom Boom fan it even prompted a debate in popular padosi forum questioning his gender.. it even prompted a debate in popular padosi forum questioning his gender..
 Jrod did the honors and nipped it 
 
 http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...kiss-to-kallis
 
 Jrod's work of art on the same issue http://cricketwithballs.com/2009/11/...llis-question/
 
 Note: Not safe for work/Kallis fan(s)
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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 Nadha Brahma Kochchappa Brother Seshappa
 
 
 
 
 
 
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