Vaigai Puyal "Imsai Arasan" Vadivelu

[wizzy]

Saai, this is akin to comparing sporting greats across generations futile exercise.. that time that actor that comedy..sometimes I find Vadivelu's self-deprecating humour tad irksome the sameway when Nagesh did rural accents

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

both gounder and vadivelu will have to share their popularity with the respective dialog writers too. we happily forget that!

[Saai]

both gounder and vadivelu will have to share their popularity with the respective dialog writers too. we happily forget that!

Every comedian has to share their popularity with the respective dialogue writers - not just gounder and Vadivelu.

OTOH - "ahA! eeiii" - idhellam endha dialogue writer eludha mudiyin??

[SoftSword]

இப்பவே கவுண்டரப் போடலாமா?
அப்படி சொன்னதுக்கு முதல்ல உங்களைப் போடலாம்.

i could hear that tone

[Avadi to America]

mavusu enbadhum , oru dedicated following enadhum vera vera illayaa Venki... to have such a following 10 years post retirement is not a small thing.

IMHO,Ilayarajavukku adutha padiyaga thalaimurai thaandi fanatical fans irukaradhu Goundarukkuthaan...idhai marukka mudiyuma? ..

Rajni and Kamal - They are still contemporary heroes

The people who grow up in sixties are my father's generatio and they are the one who had enjoyed nagesh comedy and they are still enjoying it. But they do not show their fanatism in HUB/forum/online/corporate world since they have grown up. many of them already retired from industry. Unlike them, we grow up watching gounder's comedy and use his dialogues in day to day life because we are in different age group. Just a reply for usae of gounder's dialogue in corporate world, the corporate culture had changed a lot in the past few decades. Gounder is atleast ten years youner than Nagesh in industry and i do not want to say anything about vadivelu.

[groucho070]

Nagesh, his dialogue delivery and timing = superb. Great character actor, and especially delicious when doing negative roles. But slapstick, body language, beginning from Chandrababu, right up to Suruli, all rooted in Jerry Lewis. Nagesh himself never shied from acknowledging that. In older age, he shined because, not of his body language, but his delivery.

Annan/VV are original. Down the road, Annan will be remembered, not santhAnam.

Agree with Saai, look at MRR's comedy, still awesome. And he's a goddam original. We still watch him, not MRR Vasu. Or any other imitators if there are any.

[venkkiram]

ஓ! இப்ப விவாதம் எது ஒரிஜினல், எது காப்பி என்ற போக்கில் போகுதா? எங்கே செல்லும் பாதை என்ற பாடல் வரிகள் நியாபகத்திற்கு வருகிறது. வரலாற்றுல, நிகழ்காலத்துல எது எது உங்களுக்கு தேவையோ அதையெல்லாம் எடுத்துக்கொண்டு , மற்றவர்களும் அதே பாதையில் வர வைக்க ரொம்ப முயல்றிங்க.

இப்ப சிவாஜியின் ஓவர் ஆக்டிங், கமலின் நடிப்புதான் இயல்பானது என ஒரு/இரு தலைமுறை மக்கள் நினைக்கிறார்கள். அதற்கு என்னச் சொல்றிங்க? பேசினா எல்லாத்தையும் பேசிடுவோம்! எதுக்கு அங்க ஒன்னு, இங்க ஒண்ணுனு கால் வச்சிக்கிட்டு!

நகைச்சுவை என்ற உணர்வுதான் மக்களிடம் வேற்றுமையில்லாமல் இருந்துவருகிற ஒன்று. அதிலும் இங்கே நிறம்பார்த்து, இந்த நகைச்சுவை ஒஸ்தி, இது மட்டம் என்ற அதிமேதாவித்தனத்தை வெளிப்படுத்த முயல்வது குறுகிய நோக்கத்தையும், துதிபாடும்தன்மையையும் மட்டுமே வளர்க்க உதவும். எல்லாத்துலேயும் எல்லைக்கோட்டை வரைமுறை செய்துகொள்ளும் இந்த நிலைப்பாட்டை முழு மனதோடு கண்டனம் செய்கிறேன்.

[Avadi to America]

Nagesh, his dialogue delivery and timing = superb. Great character actor, and especially delicious when doing negative roles. But slapstick, body language, beginning from Chandrababu, right up to Suruli, all rooted in Jerry Lewis. Nagesh himself never shied from acknowledging that. In older age, he shined because, not of his body language, but his delivery.

Annan/VV are original. Down the road, Annan will be remembered, not santhAnam.

Agree with Saai, look at MRR's comedy, still awesome. And he's a goddam original. We still watch him, not MRR Vasu. Or any other imitators if there are any.

Jerry Lewis:nagesh=Goundamani:sathanam

Ridiculus comparison thala. MRR & goundamani's comedy's are sargasam at peak....Even very few younger generation knows MRR's comedy since it is not shown as often as current generation comdies. It doesn't mean that he is inferior to the current generation comdedians. Off late, the current generation comedies are well blown out of proportion due to media.

[groucho070]

A2A, I didn't infer that comparison.
Jerry Lewis' body language. Which means Nagesh 50% original. Annan = 100% original. Santhanam = diet coke lite version of Annan. My point is, the more original you are, the more you will be remembered. Have you watched Jerry Lewis' films? After watching, you will no longer be impressed with Nagesh's physical side of comedy. But the dialogue delivery/timing part yes, Nagesh is awesome. Now VV, the hero of this thread, is pure original. He will be remembered for long time.

[Plum]

There is no doubt VV is original. Infact, like Nagesh continued acting into his 70s, if there is one current comedian who'd do that, it is Vadivel because he has solid fundamentals as a character actor.